330. Jay Van Bavel — Bias, Belonging, and the Battle for Truth [Encore Edition]

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

How do you navigate the complexities of identity and group dynamics to lead your law firm to greater success?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill engages with Jay Van Bavel, a distinguished social psychologist and professor at New York University, known for his extensive research on identity, group dynamics, and collective behavior. Together, they explore how understanding the fluid nature of identities and group behaviors can transform your leadership approach.

Here’s what you’ll take away:

• The dynamic nature of personal and professional identities, and how leveraging this adaptability can enhance team cohesion
• The critical role of group dynamics in fostering a supportive and inclusive workplace culture, leading to more objective decision-making and improved business outcomes
• The importance of intellectual humility and encouraging productive dissent within your team, helping your firm navigate complex challenges with informed perspectives

By mastering these concepts, law firm owners can build more cohesive teams, foster inclusivity, and make better, unbiased decisions that drive their firms forward. Leaders who embrace these insights learn to adapt their identities to different contexts, harness the power of shared purpose, and cultivate an environment where intellectual humility and dissent fuel innovation.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction

02:16 – How Identity Shapes Group Behavior

05:07 – The Power of Shared Experiences in Teams

08:36 – Adapting and Shifting Identities as a Leader

12:09 – Overcoming Bias and the “Blind Spot” Effect

18:44 – Belonging, Conspiracy Theories, and Cult Psychology

27:13 – Practicing Intellectual Humility to Improve Decisions

39:53 – Lessons from Moral Rebels and Leadership

44:07 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways

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Links & Resources:

Aristotle

Walt Whitman

Princeton

Dartmouth

Ohio State University

Enron

Bethlehem Steel

NASA

New York University

Leon Festinger

The Vow

Nexium

Martin Luther King Jr.

Red Cross

Doctors Without Borders

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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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