2-11: Relationship between Sex Workers Rights & Repro Rights + Destigmatizing through Storytelling & Education with Kaytlin Bailey

Oral Arguments

This week’s guest, Kaytlin Bailey, is a sex worker rights advocate, comedian, writer, and founder of Old Pros and Host of The Oldest Profession Podcast. She tells us about her start getting into sex work as a form of rebellion, how her sex work evolved as she pursued her comedy career, and the undeniable freedom that comes with “embracing that archetypal whore.” Norma and Kaytlin discuss how censorship of sex-positive content is actually counterintuitive to preventing sexual abuse, as well as the nuances of “free speech” and what that means, and for whom. Kaytlin explains how she got into advocacy for sex workers rights after the passage of SESTA/FOSTA in 2018, and why destigmatization is such an important step for decriminalization – and how she attacks that through educating listeners to her podcast about sex workers’ stories in history. She gets into Old Pros, her nonprofit with a mission of cultural change and creating persuasive content, hosting compelling events, and changing people’s minds, and Whore’s Eye View, her one-woman “edutational” show (which she’s getting ready to tour!). Kaytlin gets into her upbringing and living with both progressive activism and benevolent sexism and coming out to family as a sex worker. Then, she tells us about what we can learn from the Comstock Laws and how reproductive rights are related to sex workers rights – and ultimately, bodily autonomy and freedom of expression for all of us. Finally, Norma and Kaytlin get into the conflation of sex work and exploitation or trafficking, the current state of the decriminalization movement in the US, and why “End the Demand”/Nordic/”partial decriminalization” model actually creates a power imbalance that hurts sex workers and trafficking victims.

Follow Kaytlin Bailey, Old Pros:

Instagram @kaytlinbailey, @oldprosonline

Twitter @KaytlinBailey, @oldprosonline

https://oldprosonline.org/

UPCOMING EVENTS:

Buy tickets (in person or virtual) for Securing Sexuality Conference, watch Norma’s talk on 10/20 at 1 pm “Sex-Positive Victims Rights: Ethical Considerations for Practitioners and Tech”

https://www.securingsexuality.com/register-now.html#/

Buy tickets for Another Body screening at IFC Center in NYC, 10/21/23 at 7:05 pm - post-screening Q&A with Norma Buster, Adam Eli, and directors Sophie Compton & Reuben Hamlyn:

https://tickets.ifccenter.com/websales/pages/ticketsearchcriteria.aspx?evtinfo=405515~8722a542-64c1-4c0b-af02-c3e8a239d769&_ga=2.150474742.152236870.1696462706-1267295534.1695929460

anotherbodyfilm.com/

Buy tickets for past guest Jacq Frances’ movie premiere, Tuesdays with Brian Tues 10/24

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tuesdays-with-brian-premiere-tickets-719003939137

Follow Norma Buster:

Instagram @normabuster_

Twitter @normabuster

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Follow Oral Arguments:

Instagram @oralargumentspodcast

Twitter @Oral_Arguments

C.A. Goldberg, PLLC Website:

https://www.cagoldberglaw.com/

More on the Adult Survivors Act in NY:

https://www.survivorslaw.com/

Books mentioned:

The Man Who Hated Women: Sex, Censorship, and Civil Liberties in the Gilded Age, Amy Sohn

https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-man-who-hated-women-sex-censorship-and-civil-liberties-in-the-gilded-age-amy-sohn/15042621?ean=9781250174833

Unbroken Chains: The Hidden Role of Human Trafficking in the American Economy, Melissa Ditmore

https://bookshop.org/p/books/unbroken-chains-the-hidden-role-of-human-trafficking-in-the-american-economy-melissa-ditmore/18738003?ean=9780807006771