Join Dareful founder Debra Hotaling as she interviews thought leaders, culture disrupters and creative adventurers, as we reimagine our 2.1 life.
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Leading with Heart: Alan Mulally’s Masterclass in Life, Leadership, and Love
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Regarded as one of the strongest corporate leaders of our time, Alan Mulally's legacy is marked by his transformative impact at Boeing and Ford. Under his leadership, Boeing thrived, and Ford not only returned to profitability but also emerged stronger from the Great Recession. This success was no accident; it was the result of Mulally's lifelong c…
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Why we love being Middlescents: Grace Creative LA’s Susan Lee Colby
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We’re a spicy group, says Grace Creative LA founder Susan Lee Colby, “teenagers with money.” She says it with love—because she’s one of us and, as the founder of Grace Creative LA, she sees our potential. Susan points out Americans age 50 and up contribute so much to the U.S. economy that if we were counted as our own country, we’d constitute the w…
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From boardroom to big screen: meet filmmaker Melissa Davey
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We’re talking with filmmaker Melissa Davey whose documentaries focus on the adventures of women over 60 including Beyond Sixty and her newest film, Climbing into Life. But like the women she features in her films, Melissa is unexpected. Find out more in our The Dareful Project conversation. Transcript: Debra Hotaling (00:05): Hello and welcome to T…
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Meet 60-something bodybuilder Susan Guidi
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Is it ever too late to get healthy? It’s always possible, says Susan Guidi, who went from soft bod to bodybuilder in her 60s. We talk about limiting beliefs that get in the way of reaching our health goals, why lifting weights is so important and what happens when we ask the question, “If I can do this, what else is possible?” How to find Susan: In…
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We all face moments where we feel stuck. Becky Vollmer sees you. Vollmer is a speaker, journalist, yoga teacher and author of You Are Not Stuck: How Soul-Guided Choices Transform Fear into Freedom. We talk about how we get stuck—in our job, relationships, health-related choices—and what we can do right now to move forward. She reminds us that inten…
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Carl Honoré is a journalist, author and TED speaker. He’s also the voice of the global Slow Movement. He has written a series of books on the topic of slowness, slow parenting, slow living and ageing, and he travels the world as a speaker, sharing how to thrive in a fast world. His TED Talks have millions of views. Carl also has a new book coming o…
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Jess Grippo is a force of nature: author, a TEDx speaker and founder of Dance Again, a New York City dance studio that offers a welcoming space for rusty dancers and newbies alike. One of her most popular offerings is Rusty Ballet where, she says, “creaky joints and cranky people are welcome.” We talk about how she came up with the idea of Rusty Ba…
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How to make healthy choices: a conversation with Kim Alexis
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Kim Alexis is one of the most recognized faces in the modeling industry. She’s been on the cover of over 500 magazines, appeared in six Sports Illustrated swimsuit issues and has walked the runway for top designers around the world. She’s written 11 books, both fiction and nonfiction, but is mainly known for her clean-living eBooks. Now in her 60s,…
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Find your one wild and precious life: a conversation with Diana Dunbar Place
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Poet Mary Oliver writes, “tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?” It’s a question Diana Dunbar Place is obsessed with. She’s the founder of Third Act Quest which helps guide folks as they’re figuring out this second arc of life—how we live, work, play and serve. We talk about leaps of faith, rising strong from ligh…
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How to pivot with purpose: a conversation with Chris Preuss
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Like many of us, Chris Preuss spent much of his adult life working up the corporate ladder—the nights, the weekends, the career moves—and he rose up the ranks to become a senior exec with a number of companies you would recognize. And then, he made a decision that dramatically changed his life: he left it all behind to lead a Christian ministry. We…
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What's our superpower? Our own lives. An encore conversation with Kris Evans
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“Don’t ever not be curious.” That’s Kris Evans’ advice for tapping into our creative superpowers. Evans is an awarding winning makeup artist with experience in feature films, television, commercials, music videos, fashion editorial and advertising. She started her career in New York City working with Barbara Walters, Saturday Night Live, feature fi…
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Get Older. Own It. See Stuff. A conversation with Caddis Founder Tim Parr
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Remember that scene in Pretty Woman where Julia Roberts tries to buy a new dress and no one will take her money? That’s how it feels to be a 50+ consumer. Then there’s Caddis. CEO and Founder Tim Parr says it’s a mission disguised as an eyewear company: “Get Older. Own It. See Stuff.” And we totally believe it. Who else would have the cajónes to qu…
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How to Decide "Should We Move?" A Discussion with Ageist's David Stewart
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Ageist Founder David Stewart thought he was moving temporarily to Park City, Utah from Los Angeles. Four years later, he’s still there. And he has done a lot of reflecting about what we gain and lose when we move somewhere new. Whether you’re thinking about downsizing, starting new in an Italian village or chucking it all and RV’ing around the coun…
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Unlimit Your Life: A Conversation with Michael Clinton
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Change surrounds us, says Michael Clinton, author of ROAR into the second half of life (before its too late). And he should know. As one of the longest-serving top executives in the magazine publishing world leading Hearst Magazines, he's witnessed the seismic shifts in that industry. We talk about how he moved from exec to entrepreneur, how to ans…
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Friendship as Extreme Sport: An Interview with Kim Coutts
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Friendship as extreme sport? If you're Kim Coutts, yes. After life threw her some curveballs, Coutts decided she needed to get brave about new relationships. And she's leaned into the challenge the way some of us would train for a triathalon or climb Mt. Whitney. In other words, all in and pushing to the limit. Hear her practical advice and what ha…
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The Power of Connection: An Interview with Dr. Jennifer Wong, Director of Wallis Annenberg GenSpace
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Meet Dr. Jennifer Wong, Director of the Wallis Annenberg GenSpace. GenSpace is a place--it's here in Los Angeles and offers lifelong learning to seniors in the community. But it's also a big idea. And a learning lab: how people of different ages can forge true friendships. How to keep us cur4ious and active (hint: bellydancing classes!) They're als…
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Re-Finding Faith: An Interview with Rabbi Judy Greenfeld
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Guest Rabbi Judy Greenfeld explains to us how you move from a career in fitness to one of faith, what she's learned along the way and how we can begin to explore our own spiritual questions even if we've been away for a while. https://rabbicantorjudy.org/بقلم Debra Hotaling
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Welcome to season 2 of The Dareful Project: a podcast series where we learn how to reimagine our lives. In season 1, we covered a lot of ground: how to date at 67, say goodbye to an old career and invent a new one and maybe my favorite, how to roll with life. Season 2 leans even further into the joy and messiness that comes with living deeply. It's…
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Danny Kelley: How not to get scammed--an online dating story
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It starts out innocently. You post a dating profile and someone smart and funny responds. There’s back and forth and they suggest moving to email. It feels like the start of a connection. Then, an urgent note: a family member needs medical care, an ex has made off with the savings, a child is stranded in another country. Even then, you’re thinking,…
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Dr. Roberta Brinton: What we know about women and Alzheimer's
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Good news: there are advances—soon and on the horizon—for Alzheimer’s. Learn more as we talk with Dr. Roberta Diaz Brinton, one of the world’s leading experts on women and our risk of Alzheimer’s disease. Dr. Brinton is director of the UA Center for Innovation in Brain Science at the University of Arizona Health Sciences. Her scientific discoveries…
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John Tarnoff: How to build a sustainable career
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We’re talking about reimagining our careers with John Tarnoff, an executive and career transition coach and author of Boomer Reinvention: How to Create Your Dream Career Over 50. Before he was a career transition coach, John was a film producer, studio exec and tech entrepreneur. He reinvented his own career at 50, earning a master’s degree in coun…
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Rachel Braun Scherl on sex, menopause and wellness
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We’re talking sex, menopause and wellness with Rachel Braun Scherl, an entrepreneur and business builder who works with companies in the space from menstruation through menopause. She explains why we see ED advertising but not women’s sexual health ads, why menopause is having a moment and how women-led start ups are leading the way in the femtech …
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Linda Ong: how to sift through noise
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Cultural explorer and CULTIQUE CEO/Founder Linda Ong teaches us how to sift through the noise to tease out what we really need to pay attention to. We cover a lot of ground: her ethos “be like water,” how to travel like a local, why vampires and the power behind the fairy godmother club. How does this fit into cultural insights? Listen in! And chec…
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Photographer Alex Rotas: you can't be what you don't see
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Alex Rotas is a UK-based photographer who challenges us to look new at our bodies and what we assume we're capable of. Pole vaulting in your 80s? Long jump champ at 90? Rotas is obsessed with chronicling these elite athletes who train meticulously to compete at the top of their sport. Says Rotas, you can't be what you don't see.…
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Aletha Vassilakis: How to have The Talk with your adult kids
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Let's get smart on The Talk--the one we all need to have with our adult kids--and maybe our parents--about how we want things to roll if/when we can't make decisions. Getting us smart on how to hack the discussion is Aletha Vassilakis, an attorney who specializes in contract law. Vassilakis has also spent a lot of time serving as a mediator for cou…
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We're talking ageism with Ashton Applewhite, author of This Chair Rocks: A Manifesto Against Ageism and co-founder of the Old School Anti-Ageism Clearinghouse. Applewhite says, "the sooner growing older is stripped of reflexive dread, the better equipped we are to benefit from the countless ways in which it can enrich us." Watch Applewhite's TED ta…
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Frank Santorelli teaches us how to roll with it
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I'm addicted to overthinking. Which is why we're talking about how to roll with it--a skill we need now more than ever. Teaching us how to roll with it is Frank Santorelli, assistant clinical professor for Northern Arizona University's School of Nursing. Santorelli's job is to transform nursing students into medical professionals able to make life …
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Pattie Sellers: Thinking new about women and power
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We're talking women, leadership and power with Pattie Sellers, an award-winning writer, producer and multimedia journalist. In 2016 after writing for Fortune Magazine for 32 years, Sellers and fellow senior Fortune editor Nina Easton launched SellersEaston Media to tell stories of impact. We talk about what she's learned from other women leaders an…
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Dierdre Wolownick: From beginner to climbing El Cap with son Alex Honnold
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How do we move from beginner to mastery? Dierdre Wolownick started climbing in her 50s to understand her son Alex Honnold's world. Now she's scaled El Capitan in Yosemite with a second trip planned this fall for her 70th birthday. In this episode, we talk about gaining mastery, what it meant to climb El Cap and how our relationships with children e…
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Bernadette Murphy: the science behind risk
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How do we choose growth and risk over the comfort of perceived safety? Author Bernadette Murphy has thought a lot about this question. She's the author of four books, most recently, Harley and Me: Embracing Risk on the Road to a More Authentic Life. She's also author of Zen and the Art of Knitting, and The Tao Gals' Guide to Real Estate. She has se…
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Kris Evans: What's our creative superpower? Our own lives.
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"Don't ever not be curious." That's Kris Evans' advice to tapping into our creative superpowers. Evans is an award-winning makeup artist with experience in feature films, TV, commercials, music videos, fashion editorial and advertising. She started her career in New York City working with Barbara Walters, Saturday Night Live, feature films and epis…
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"What I realized about getting my pilot's license," recalls Sue Mead about her latest accomplishment, "is that I was more afraid of not trying than of trying and failing. I have to see things through." Seeing it through has also made Mead one of the best off-road drivers out there. Her goal: bring other women along--new and seasoned--to the adventu…
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It was supposed to be their adventure together. Colleen Kelley and her husband Bob were in the middle of buying an "off-the-grid" lodge in Alaska when Bob suffered a fatal heart attack. Now Colleen had to decide: head back to the lower 48 or stay and build a life in Alaska on her own. She chose Alaska. And it has been a great adventure. "I've learn…
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Martha Carr: the adventure of dating at 67
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"There is nothing that makes me feel like I don't belong more than reading profiles on dating apps," writes Martha Carr in her Los Angeles Times essay on being 67 and dating. But she also says it's been insightful journey: "I've learned relationships can be whatever I want them to be." Martha Carr is a writer and psychotherapist in private practice…
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Sheryl Connelly: My friend the futurist
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Ford futurist Sheryl Connelly doesn't see into a crystal ball but she does devote her professional life to teasing out hunches that turn into future trends. Connelly has served as Ford's corporate futurist for over 15 years, helping lead discussions on long-term thinking, planning and strategy. She's been a featured speaker around the world includi…
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Amy Lerner: First you have to finish
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Amy Lerner is a mother of two and former Wall Street trader turned adventurer whose love of adventure has taken her around the world through the sport of off-roading. In January 2021, Lerner competed in the Classic division at the Dakar Rally, a grueling 4,751-mile race across the Arabian Desert in Saudi Arabia, widely considered one of the toughes…
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David Stewart is the founder of AGEIST. A passionate champion of the modern 50+ lifestyle, he frequently shares his insights with major media publications including WSJ, The Times of London, Forbes and Fortune. He also consults for a range of Fortune 500 brands and businesses. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/superage-live-better/id1514482663 …
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Lynn Casey: gifts that come with uncertainty
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As founder of Shine Scout, Lynn Casey has made it her life's work to help businesses read the tea leaves of culture, trends and emerging conversations. Like all of us, she's also been looking closely at what 2020 has brought and what 2021 is turning out to be. There are gifts that come with uncertainty, she says, if we can dive in past the breakwat…
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This is a podcast series about our 2.1 life. Our dareful life. Like you, I've built a career, raised kids, juggled life and now I need to know how the next part works. My hunch is that between the noise, there is space to reinvent ourselves. So let's talk with people who are doing that. Every week, I'm interviewing old and new friends about careers…
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