Created and hosted by Howard Young and Rich Hardin with the aim of exploring the working dog world. We share unique experiences, training advice and real-world application garnered from today’s most prolific handlers, trainers, and behaviorists.Would you like to become a better, handler, trainer or just all-around dog person? We interview the experts that take your performance to the next level.This podcast is a collaborative effort between Howard, Rich, and our incredibly talented guests. I ...
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Through candid conversations, we'll explore the rich tapestry of Satir's pioneering work in transformational systemic therapy, a groundbreaking approach that has touched countless lives around the world and continues to shape the way we understand relationships, communication, and personal growth.
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Episode #41 Paul Ludwig and JC Leblanc from ATK9
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Rich and I had a chat with two board members with ATK9. Paul Ludwig and JC Leblanc are both well known names in the working dog community. They provided pertinent information about the upcoming ATK9 conference in October. The number of world renowned instructors and format make this conference unique. Of course, there were many take aways as well a…
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Episode #40 Josh Kirby "Kirby K9"
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It's especially rewarding for us to get an opportunity to interview a hard working man with integrity. That was certainly the feeling we had as we concluded the interview. Hope you all enjoy the conversation as much as we did. Josh is a retired police officer after serving at Garland PD and Denton PD in Texas since 2003. During that time Josh held …
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The use of the Satir Model in Organizational Coaching: A conversation with Joanne Perold
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Joanne Perold is the director and founder of Faethm, a South African based executive coaching company. She established Faethm to help businesses grow and leaders achieve their full potential. Joanne is a globally acclaimed Agile Coach, Certified Scrum Trainer, keynote speaker and facilitator. She’s held senior leadership roles for many years and us…
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Episode #39 Rodney Spicer Gold Coast K9 "Perseverance"
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We had a great conversation with Rodney Spicer of Gold Coast K9. Rodney shared how he became interested in working dogs in the 1980's. He also shared his insights into puppy and working dog selection. Rodney's transparency about his meager beginnings is refreshing. The theme that stands out is perseverance. We know that you'll enjoy what he has to …
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Diana Hall: A Great Adventure with Virginia Satir
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Diana Hall went to UC Berkeley and graduated with a B.A. in psychology. Her early career was as a special education teacher. During her many years serving children who were on the spectrum she earned five different credentials in her field and experienced much success engaging her students with experiential interventions. When she met Virginia Sati…
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Episode #38 Jay Nix "Stop arguing and go train dogs"
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We got the bugs worked out since the last episode and we were both able to participate. We both really enjoyed this episode and feel as though there are many great lessons to be learned. Hope you all enjoy the conversation and get some nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Jay Nix, is a Sergeant with the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, in Florida, wher…
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Honoring the life and work of Dr. Janet Christie Seely. A conversation with her surviving husband, Tom Wright, and friends Dr. John Banmen and Dr. Richard Kennedy
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We have a special treat today as we are honoring the work and life of Dr. Janet Christie-Seely. She is an important figure in the Virginia Satir world, passing away in 2022 after a battle with Alzheimer’s and complications from Covid. I will be talking to her surviving husband, Tom Wright and his and Janet’s friends, Dr. John Banmen and Dr. Richard…
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Episode #37 Mike Lilley "Holding the dog accountable in tracking"
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Caught up with Mike Lilley for an interview. Unfortunately, Rich was having some technical difficulties and could not join us. We will be rectifying this by the next episode. I believe you will find Mike's methods to be innovative and sound. The proof is always in the pudding. His name is more and more becoming synonymous with solid tracking. He's …
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Dr. Beth Nemesh, Family Music Therapy, and Holding on to Hope
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Beth Nemesh, PhD, MT-BC, LMFT, holds a PhD in Expressive Arts Therapies from Lesley University. She is a Licensed Marital Family Therapist, a Board-Certified Music Therapist, a Certified Satir Transformational Systemic Therapist (STST), and Certified Body-Mind Psychotherapist. Beth has been working with children, adolescents, couples and families s…
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Wisdom from Zimbabwe, A Conversation with Dr. Loveness Makonese
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Loveness Makonese is an academic, humanitarian and development practitioner with more than 15 years’ experience. Her work has specialized in Gender, Emergency health, Resilience building, social protection, inclusion and participation, nutrition, HIV and AIDS. She has special expertise in programme design, implementation, evaluation, knowledge mana…
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Dr. Mary Jo Bulbrook, her friendship with Virginia Satir, Energy Healing, and the 4th Birth
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Today, I have the honor of talking with Dr. Mary Jo Bulbrook. Dr. Bulbrook is a renowned leader in the field of holistic nursing and energy healing, with a wealth of experience in integrating traditional and alternative approaches to healthcare. She has a distinguished 50 + year career as a university professor and clinical specialist in psychiatri…
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Episode #36 Hans Verbruggen Part 2. "Dogs don't make mistakes on purpose."
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Once again we got an opportunity to have a conversation with Hans about dog training. The first episode was very popular with our listeners. Many folks felt we just scratched the surface on a few key topics. So, in part two, we were able to dig a bit deeper. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did. Hans Verbruggen Professional Dog tra…
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BENITO OLSON began his naval career as a master-at-arms serving in Bahrain and Kingsville, Texas. His work with military dogs opened the opportunity of a lifetime to serve with SEAL Team Six for multiple deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan. He earned a reputation as a go-to handler for dogs at the tip of the spear and earned multiple decorations su…
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Episode #34 Hans Verbruggen "When building the foundation fast is slower"
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We anticipate that you will enjoy this conversation as much as we did. There are already plans for a second episode. Hans uses many phrases that simply just resonated with us. Please listen intently as he has many important things to say and is wise beyond his years. Hans Verbruggen Professional Dog trainer I 've been living amongst dogs since my c…
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A conversation with Tiffany McLallen. Learning about her initiative a "Helper's Perspective."
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Welcome to this week’s episode! Today we have a very special guest joining us. Tiffany McLallen, a licensed mental health counselor from Watertown, New York, is here to share her insights and passion for supporting first responders and other helping professionals. Tiffany is on a mission to ensure that those who dedicate their lives to helping othe…
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The Breath of Life by Virginia Satir (read by Michael Argumaniz-Hardin)
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Today, I have planned a special treat for listeners as I lead us in "The Breath of Life," one of Virginia Satir's meditations published in "Guided Meditations and Inspirations" by Virginia Satir, edited by John Banmen in 2020. This meditation invites us to connect with the essence of our being, to breathe in the gift of life, and to embrace the pre…
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A Conversation with Dr. Hilda Richards: A DEI Trailblazer, A Great Leader, & Friend to Virginia Satir
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Throughout a career spanning five decades, Dr. Hilda Richards has consistently broken barriers and forged historic change, specifically in the fields of nursing and higher learning. Over the years, at numerous institutions and organizations, she has been dedicated to expanding what we refer to today as diversity, equity, and inclusion. Born in 1936…
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The Wonderful Sandy Novak and Her Experiences Teaching the Satir Model
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Our guest today is an internationally renowned trainer and a leading authority of the Virginia Satir Growth Model. With a career spanning decades, Sandy Novak has touched the lives of countless individuals, therapists, and practitioners around the globe. Her passion for teaching and her commitment to spreading knowledge and wisdom has left an indel…
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A Conversation with Jean McClendon: Discussing the Self-Esteem Maintenance Tool Kit, Family Maps, Family Reconstructions, and her mark in the Satir world
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Today’s guest, Jean McClendon, is a licensed clinical social worker, licensed marriage and family therapist, and AAMFT-approved supervisor. Jean maintains a thriving multi-service private practice in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and her journey in the Satir world and the field of family therapy is nothing short of extraordinary. What sets Jean apar…
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Episode #33 Jeff Meyer on the other side of the table.
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We got the opportunity to get Jeff on the other side of the table. You will find that he is a humble solid source of k9 information. He certainly helped play a role in unifying trainers in this industry. Those of us who have been around awhile remember a time when there wasn't much collaboration. The original Police K9 Magazine most definitely play…
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Sharon Loeschen and the Virginia Satir Coaching and Mentoring Program
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In this episode, we have the privilege of delving into Sharon Loeschen's profound journey. She will share her experiences working alongside Virginia Satir and how she pioneered the immensely successful Satir Coaching and Mentoring program. In collaboration with Ginny Wong, Miriam Freeman, and other esteemed colleagues, the coaching and mentoring pr…
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Stephen Buckbee and Virginia Satir's Self-Mandala
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Our guest, Stephen Buckbee, has not only worked closely with the legendary Virginia Satir but has dedicated his life to spreading awareness of her groundbreaking therapeutic approach. Today, he shares his unique insights, experiences, and his unwavering commitment to carrying forward Satir's legacy. Stephen's journey is a remarkable one, filled wit…
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Episode #32 Ted Summers "Marginal Legal Advice"
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Ted is a treasure trove of information when it comes to k9 caselaw. In a nut shell the court system dictates how k9's are utilized in this country. Decisions made by handlers should align with the prevailing laws. Additionally, LE agencies policies regarding k9 usages should align with the prevailing laws as well. If you are not a handler and have …
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A Conversation with Dr. John Banmen
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In this first episode of season 1, you will be hearing excerpts from an interview I did with Dr. John Banmen at the 2023 Virginia Satir Global Network online conference. Dr. John Banmen is internationally known as an author, therapist, and educator. His training programs have taken him to over a dozen countries in Asia, Europe, South America and No…
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Through candid conversations, we'll explore the rich tapestry of Satir's pioneering work in transformational systemic therapy, a groundbreaking approach that has touched countless lives around the world and continues to shape the way we understand relationships, communication, and personal growth.بقلم Michael Argumaniz Hardin
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Episode #31 Jerry "Phd in K9" Bradshaw.
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What a great conversation with Jerry Bradshaw. We got Jerry to stroll down memory lane at the beginning of the episode. He then dove deep into an explanation about "capping". For those of you who know Jerry or listen to his podcast "Controlled Aggression" he is a wealth of knowledge. Many folks will want to listen to this episode more than once. He…
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Episode #30 Phillipi "Mountain" Sanz "Artgerecht" fairness to the species.
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We think that you will see that Mountain is a teacher at heart and a wealth of knowledge. ENJOY! Mountain was born in Rio de Janeiro Brazil in 1985 and immigrated to the US when he was 4. His younger years were spent in Florida and eventually moved to Vermont his 8th grade year. Upon graduating, he took an athletic scholarship to compete in track a…
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Episode #29 Erik Good Utilizing the bark fence to create effective engagement.
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Both Rich and I feel that Erik is doing something special with the implementation of the bark fence. On this episode, he does a great job of describing how he uses it and what he expects the desired outcome to become. This is truly another tool to be added to your program as you seek to develop dogs that will engage with power and control. Erik Goo…
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"Episode #28 Eddie "First in" Wescott
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We sat down with an old mutual friend and talked about a myriad of K9 related subjects. We discussed k9 tryouts, the vetting process, hairy deployments, the cyclical nature of things, as well as Eddie's K9 attic deployment system. You will be able to hear how passionate Eddie is about the device he developed and how it can save lives. First In K9 m…
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Episode #27 Doug Roller. The magic of off leash control, ecollars, k9 caselaw, stories, and more.
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Doug graciously allowed us to interview him and he came forward with some great information. Information that comes from experience working in the field for many years. This episode is chocked full of gold nuggets that handlers can put to use. We hope that you enjoy this one as much as we did. Doug Roller was a Sergeant and Chief Trainer for the Lo…
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Episode #26 Steven "Sway" Hueston and Steven Antommarchi from the Dogs of War Podcast.
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This was a joint episode with the guys from the Dogs of War Podcast. The DOW podcast just celebrated its third year. Steven "Sway" Hueston was instrumental in helping us get our podcast off the ground. In this episode we talk about moral, social media, podcast growth, and creative venues for expanding your dog training business. Additionally, Steve…
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Episode #25 Matt Wilson "The Face of Ray Allen Manufacturing. He has a bitable face."
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Help us welcome one of the most fun people we know to the Working Dog Depot, Matt Wilson. Matt was born in Colorado Springs, Colorado. He first got into dog training at the age of 16 at PetSmart. It didn't take long for him to realize there was more to training than what was being offered at a big box store. Matt left PetSmart and started his own t…
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Episode #24 Bellator K9 Billy Sawyer and Brian Hempelmann "Recalls, tactics, shootings, and lessons learned"
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Say Less - Train your dog to be calm and stable. This allows your dog to think through what you’re asking him to do. Being frantic leads to bad decision making and instability. Brian Hempelmann Brian Hempelmann became a police officer in 1994 with the Westminster Police Department in Colorado. He then became a K9 handler in 1997. Brian has since wo…
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Episode #23 Jeff Schettler "Allowing the dog to use all of it's resources to manhunt"
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JEFF SCHETTLER CEO / Police and Military K9 Trainer / Author Jeff Schettler is a retired police K9 handler who worked for the City of Alameda and County of Amador in California and was attached to the FBI’s Hostage Rescue Teams’ K9 Assistance Program for two years. This program was designed to locate and apprehend high-risk fugitives on the run. He…
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Episode #22 Tim Slattery "Do you have the passion?"
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Tim began his K9 career as a Gun Dog trainer in Texas in 1990. He evolved to working dog training and instruction in 2003. Tim is certified as a State of Texas level 1-4 Security Agent and Personal Protection Officer, NRA Firearms Instructor, Texas DPS Firearms Instructor, Texas DPS Certified Security Instructor, Texas DPS License to Carry Instruct…
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Episode #21 Pat Nolan "If we don't understand the principles we will be slaves to the techniques"
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We are excited about this episode as Pat is someone we both admire and respect. His work across the dog community speaks for itself. He is a true gentleman and man of integrity. We know you'll enjoy the ease at which he describes what he does and why he does it. His experiences come from a lifetime of training puppies and dogs. Pat Nolan has worked…
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In this episode Rich and Howard have a casual conversation about obedience. They differentiate the difference between obedience and manners. It is entirely possible to have a dog that is good at specific obedience tasks, but lacks manners. It's also possible to have a dog that has good manners but lacks good fundamental obedience. Many times what p…
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Jim O’Brien, handled two police canines while he was a patrolman in the state of New Hampshire. Jim and his canine partners were a huge asset in central New Hampshire and were responsible for the capture and arrest of countless suspects and drug seizures. Jim developed both canines programs from the ground up and had much success with both programs…
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Episode #18 Todd Mona "Compartmentalized/Modular training" Breaking tasks down.
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Todd Mona is a Sergeant/K9 Handler for the East Hartford Police Department in Connecticut. He is the founder and lead trainer of the Capital Region Police K9 Academy and the Capital Region K9 Training Group. Todd has been a Police Officer since 2002 and in K9 since 2006. After working his first dog K9 Primo from 2006 until 2015, Todd raised and tra…
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Episode #17 Kenny Licklider Vohne Liche Kennels "Every good opportunity in the world is by chance, you just have to recognize it"
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Ken Licklider Vohne Liche Kennels Some 20 plus years ago, both Rich and I separately, encountered a gentleman whose training would largely shape how we teach detection dogs. His accomplishments are truly too numerous to document in this space. To this day, he continues to draw crowds at conferences when he speaks. He's charismatic, and humorous, bu…
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Episode #16 Michele Maughan and Jenna Gadberry "Revenge of the Nerds"
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It's not everyday that we get to chat with research scientists. Sit back and enjoy this entertaining episode filled with many take aways. Mrs. Jenna Gadberry is a contract Scientist at the US Army Futures Command’s Combat Capabilities Development Command Chemical Biological Center (DEVCOM-CBC) at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD. Mrs. Gadberry earned he…
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Michael Nezbeth is the Training Director and founder of Grassroots K9, an international training company that specializes in LEO canines. Michael also offers seminars and workshops to LEO and civilians aimed at giving actionable training plans based on theory to practical applications. Michael began his career in the canine industry after graduatin…
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Episode #14 with KD Mathews of Socratic Canine "The Human End of the Leash"
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Howard and Rich had a great conversation with KD Mathews of Socratic Canine. KD is vert charismatic and engaging. We feel confident that you'll enjoy the conversation as much as we all did. Training dogs, and even more importantly, educating humans, has been the priority for KD Mathews for over 25 years. KD now combines his shared experiences of tr…
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Episode #13 How to episode: Tracking and Detection
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Rich and Howard go over some of the methods they have used in order to teach working dogs to track and do odor detection. There is no one way or absolutes when training dogs. In this episode they share the methods that have worked best for them when training tracking and detection working dogs. Tracking: Proper dog selection Pronounced hunt drive H…
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Episode #12 Mike Goosby retired LAPD
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Great opportunity to speak with Mike about a variety of K9 related topics: California Assembly Bill CA AB740 Ecollars Failed engagements, perspective, and overcoming deployment failure SERGEANT II (Ret) Mike Goosby Chief Trainer Metropolitan Division K9 Platoon Los Angeles Police Department Mike had 32.5 years (25 years of K9 experience) with the L…
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Episode #11 Questions and Answers from listeners.
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On this episode Rich and Howard field questions provided by listeners. Topics covered include: Hidden sleeves and prosthetics General thoughts on protection dogs Teaching passive engagement Police dog selection Selecting police dog candidates from vendors overseas and domestic Dealing with conflict/redirection on handler Main training goals prior t…
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Episode #10 with Antonio Rodriguez "Arod"
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Great conversation with "Arod" Antonio Rodriguez. He shares from his wealth of experience in the K9 industry. We know you'll enjoy the topics and conversation. Antonio “Arod” Rodriguez is the founder and lead Instructor at Olive Branch K9, LLC. and co-owner of ORO-K9 Services. Antonio is a 20-year retired combat veteran of the United States Air For…
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Episode #9 with the humans behind @servicedog_chase
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Please join Working Dog Depot for a peek into the journey of an amazing young man, Jackson Point, and his K9 working dog Chase. Some of you may follow ServiceDog Chase on Facebook and/or @ServiceDog_Chase on Instagram. If so, you know this is not an episode you want to miss!! On this episode, we get to chat with Walt & Kelly Point, as well as Jacks…
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Episode #8 with Evan Nolte "denmother_k9"
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Evan Nolte was a Paratrooper and Animal Care Sergeant in the US Army for 14 years; providing direct medical support at home and abroad to the Special Operations Forces Multi-Purpose Canine Program for most of his service. Since being medically retired from 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne) for combat related injuries, Evan has started teaching K9…
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Episode #7 with John Imler of Top Dog Training Louisville Ky.
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What is a trained dog is just one question we delved in to with our latest guest. We're confident you'll like John's sensible approach to dog training. John Imler is the owner of Top Dog Training in Louisville, Kentucky where he focuses on pet dog training and behavior modification for reactivity and aggression. He also helps industry professionals…
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