D&C 98-101 with Sonny Makasini

Two Point Conversion with BYU Football: A Gospel Discussion Podcast

BYU offensive lineman Sonny Makasini joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss Doctrine and Covenants sections 98-101. Before diving into the doctrine of Christ in these sections, the trio discuss the goods and bads of the bowl games they’ve attended. Sonny then shares a spiritually enriching experience of how everything works out for people when they keep the commandments. The discussion then turns to the nature of trials—those that stem from personal choices, the actions of others, and the inherent challenges of mortality. Connor and Sonny recount moments on the football field when they faced adversity despite doing everything right—illustrating how trials often come even in the midst of faithfulness. Chase admits he doesn’t enjoy trials but expresses hope that he’ll appreciate them more in the future, especially when he eventually sees Jesus Christ face to face.