Thirty Love at the 2022 U.S. Open: Serena Williams, with Giri Nathan, winner of the 2022 Tom Perrotta Prize for Tennis Journalism

Thirty Love: Conversations About Tennis

Returning guest Giri Nathan, who writes about tennis for Defector and Racquet, joins Thirty Love host Carl Bialik the day after Serena Williams's loss in what she has said will be her final tournament, to talk about what he saw at her last match of this tournament. We also talk about whether there will ever be an event like her retirement at a future Open, and about Nathan being awarded the inaugural Tom Perrotta Prize for Tennis Journalism by the International Tennis Writers Association during this year's tournament.

Thirty Love is back for a mini-season around the 2022 U.S. Open. Have feedback, a suggestion for a Thirty Love guest, or anything else you want to say? Email Carl at [e-mail]

Music by Lee Rosevere: "Credit Roll" and "Glass Android."