A (Respectful) Debate on AI Policy, w/ Justin Hendrix and Jeff Amico

The People's AI: The Decentralized AI Podcast

Should AI be regulated by governments, left to the courts, or guided by open markets and open source? That question is at the heart of this thoughtful, civil debate between two leaders shaping the future of AI policy.

In this episode of The People’s AI, we’re joined by Justin Hendrix (Tech Policy Press) and Jeff Amico (Gensyn) for a wide-ranging conversation on how — and by whom — artificial intelligence should be governed. We explore the competing tensions between innovation and regulation, centralization and decentralization, open models and closed ones.

We cover:

• The case for federal vs. state-level AI legislation
• Whether a moratorium on state AI laws could backfire
• AI’s environmental footprint and the hidden cost of data centers
• National security, China, and the myth of technological containment
• The nuanced risks (and rewards) of open-source AI models

This isn’t a food fight — it’s a conversation grounded in substance, disagreement, and common ground.

Timestamps:

• (2:03) What is Gensyn? What is Tech Policy Press?
• (4:16) Defining the guests’ north stars for AI policy
• (6:37) Who should set the rules—Congress, states, courts, or global bodies?
• (12:31) The federal bill that may override state AI laws
• (17:22) What exactly should we regulate? Models, data, or applications?
• (24:17) Geopolitics, China, and national security implications
• (30:45) The open-source debate: freedom vs. risk
• (39:08) What keeps them up at night: from monopolies to environmental collapse
• (46:55) Notes of optimism — and what gives them hope

If you’re curious about the future of AI regulation, this is the debate to hear.

Tech Policy Press:

https://www.techpolicy.press/

About Gensyn:

Gensyn is a protocol for machine learning computation. It provides a standardised way to execute machine learning tasks over any device in the world. This aggregates the world's computing supply into a single network, which can support AI systems at far greater scale than is possible today. It is fully open source and permissionless, meaning anyone can contribute to the network or use it.

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