#208 Chris Whalen: It's a Funny Time In Markets With No Clear Direction

The Julia La Roche Show

Investment banker and author Chris Whalen, chairman of Whalen Global Advisors, who is also the author of The Institutional Risk Analyst, returns to the show for episode 208 to discuss the economy, markets, and the 2024 presidential election.

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Links:

Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen

Website: https://www.rcwhalen.com/

The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

Stanley Middleman book: https://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Around-Corners-Achieving-Business/dp/B0D5PTSJVC/

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro and welcome back Chris Whalen

00:56 Big picture, overview of interest rates and Fed policy

02:57 Analysis of Treasury bond market dynamics

04:11 Long-term outlook for bonds and market structure

06:01 Discussion of fiscal policy and government spending

09:00 Critique of government spending efficiency

11:24 Commentary on government sector competency

13:21 Election outlook and demographic shifts

16:56 Analysis of Bank of America and banking sector

19:16 Discussion of stock selection in current market

22:42 Investment strategy in uncertain times

24:59 Analysis of hydrogen and energy sector outlook

26:02 Key market risk: potential for higher long-term rates

28:05 Closing thoughts and upcoming conference call