PRIDE BONUS: The Music Man!


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To celebrate Pride Month, Peter and Nathan are joined by the incredible Isaac Lamb and Stephanie Smith, director and musical director for a new and groundbreakingly queer production of Meredith Wilson’s 1957 classic musical The Music Man – which opens at Third Rail Repertory Theatre in Portland, OR, on June 17th.

We talk about:

– Theatre and church, chamber pieces versus extravagant spectacles, and what led Meredith Wilson to create The Music Man. We reference Meredith Wilson’s 1957 book But He Doesn’t Know the Territory which was reissued by University of Minnesota Press in 2020.

– The nature of “political” casting choices, what it means for six women and non-binary actors to take on these roles, and why casting choices matter. (You can learn more about Third Rail Rep’s production (and purchase tickets!) by visiting

– Learning how to sing and learning how to play an instrument – both in the story of The Music Man and in this production, where the actors accompany themselves.

-The purity (and politics!) of joy, and why a show like The Music Man can help us imagine new possibilities in a multi-racial, multiply-abled, diverse, and rapidly changing world.

You’ll hear:

  • Robert Preston, Barbara Cook and the company of the original New York production singing “Seventy-Six Trombones,” “My White Knight” “Sincere,” “Gary, Indiana,” “Rock Island,” “Pick-a-Little” and “Shipoopi”

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