ShopTalk & Friends (Friends)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert join Adam and Jerod for a ShopTalk & Friends conversation on the viability of the web, making content, ads to support that content, Codepen’s future plans, books, side quests, and social networks devaluing links.

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Featuring:

• Chris Coyier – Website, GitHub, X
• Dave Rupert – Website, GitHub, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

Big news - A new era for the Changelog Podcast Universe and CPU.fm launches in 2025.

• ShopTalk Show
• Codepen
• Number Flow
• Dave’s bookshelf

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

فصول

1. Let's talk! (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Sentry (00:00:44)

https://sentry.io/events/launch-week/

3. Was that a websocket? (00:02:47)

4. Does Codepen have sponsors? (00:04:22)

5. Tasteful well placed ads (00:05:57)

6. Secret Dave dream (00:08:11)

7. Devs who don't dev (00:09:08)

8. Web component land (00:13:01)

9. Humble websites and HN (00:21:42)

10. Is the web a viable platform? (00:23:39)

11. Devaluing links (00:30:47)

12. Attacking what's good about the web (00:33:31)

13. Sponsor: Fly.io (00:35:57)

https://fly.io/

14. Sponsor: Coder.com (00:38:20)

https://coder.com/

15. Play to the strengths of linking (00:40:27)

16. Codepen 2.0?! (00:43:54)

17. Codepen World's Fair (00:50:20)

18. Always be recording (ABR) (00:55:27)

19. Chris likes our ad format (00:58:13)

20. Win win win (01:00:43)

21. Selling it for us (01:02:48)

22. Sponsor: AssemblyAI (01:07:40)

https://www.assemblyai.com/?utm_source=changelog&utm_medium=podcast

23. ShopTalk ambitions (01:09:09)

24. Niche app builders (01:14:03)

25. Tech adjacent content (01:16:50)

26. Chef Frank Proto coming soon (01:21:18)

27. David Goggins soon? (01:24:15)

28. Did you read ALL these books? (01:25:34)

29. SO many dirty dishes (01:26:35)

30. Trash on the counter (Adam sings) (01:28:56)

31. The long slow decline (01:30:25)

32. Closing thoughts and stuff (01:30:58)

33. ++ Teaser (01:33:20)