Career Crises and Finding Yourself Again with Natalie Wilson
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Yuliana welcomes opera singer and teacher Natalie Wilson to today’s Phoenix Tales episode to discuss Natalie’s decision to abandon her opera career and how this choice, coupled with a divorce not too long after, marked a rather poignant moment for her. Having felt that she’d wasted decades of her life embarking on a career path that she no longer desired, Natalie notes that she suffered from an identity crisis after tying her self worth into her career for so long. Not until she met her friend Cat did she start to find herself again, and together they went on to perform cabaret at parties as a side gig.
Soon after she started attending therapy sessions to overcome her deeply ingrained belief that she was worthless so long as her career was over. It’s these sessions that have helped Natalie live in the present, but she admits that this can sometimes prevent her from making necessary future plans. Most importantly, however, she has learned to find self worth beyond the numbers on her paycheck, and fame, or lack thereof. She closes out this episode by embracing and appreciating what she has. She remarks that it’s time that she started valuing teaching for the stability it provides her rather than serving as a reminder of a bygone career.
- Coming to the decision to quit her opera career
- Feeling like she embarked on the wrong career path
- Having an identity crisis
- Her duo’s cabaret ambitions
- Natalie’s experience with therapy
- Living in the present
- Finding worth outside of her paycheck or status
- Embracing teaching
“So I made the very difficult decision to leave that career behind. And then shortly thereafter, I also got divorced from a 17 year long relationship and completely reinvented my life the next few years after that.”
“Well, I didn't figure out what my voice was doing until I was 34. It was kind of like, ‘Well, okay, great. Now you sound awesome. And now it's too late for you to do any of these young artists programs.’ So that was one of the challenges that I ran into.”
“Maybe I shouldn't have gone for the thing I thought I was more likely to be successful at and really gone for the thing that was in my bones and in my heart.”
“‘You've been putting every ounce of every fiber of your being into this career for the last 15 years and you're miserable. You're clearly miserable.’ And I actually let myself stop.”
“Every ounce of my identity was tied up in me being an opera singer. So it was really, really, really painful.”
“I don't know what's going to happen when we get old, but my daily life is actually pretty good.”
“I realize that I have worth as a human being, even if I'm not famous or getting a paycheck from some, you know, a TV network or something.”
“Getting some validation from my family that they didn't look at me as a failure because of my career choices really helped to soothe some wounds for me.”
“Regret is not an emotion that I connect with very strongly.”
“So the piece that comes to mind right away is ‘Moments in the Woods’ from Into the Woods by Mr. Sondheim who left us this year.
Yuliana welcomes opera singer and teacher Natalie Wilson to this week’s @PhoenixTalesPodcast to talk about Natalie’s decision to abandon her opera career and how this choice, coupled with a divorce not too long after, marked a rather poignant moment for her. She learned to find self worth beyond the numbers on her paycheck, and fame, or lack thereof and has fully embraced and appreciated what she currently has.