Holding Onto Hope and Humanity; ICE, Palestine and Black Liberation

Making It Awkward

Jessica Wilson, MS RD is joined by Malak (whose last name and appearance we're not sharing to protect her safety) to discuss the intersections of ICE, Palestine and Black liberation. Malak was recently a part of a mental health delegation that traveled to Palestine and shares the stories of those she met.

The two talk settler colonialism, surveillance and over policing. They also talk about a shared humanity, and how people and these fights are not about here vs there. She provides language and context for the wars and battles raging around us and the importance of being seen.

Black scholars, including Angela Davis, Ta-Nehesi Coats and James Baldwin have long made connections between Palestine and Black people in America, both living under Imperialism, and fighting for justice and freedom and never giving up.

Malak shares multiple ways for people to stay engaged and keep learning.

This episode was 1st published on Juneteenth 2025.

Innocent Until Proven Muslim

Podcasts:

• Sumud Podcast

• This is Palestine

• Rethinking Palestine

Websites:

• thepalestineacademy.com

• decolonizepalestine.com

• boycottguide.org

Books:

• The Hundred Years' War on Palestine

• Justice for Some: Law and the Question of Palestine

• The Question of Palestine

• The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

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Jessica Wilson's book: It's Always Been Ours; Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies