From Classroom to Doctoral Dissertation: Education Leaders Share Their UGA MFE COE Experience

GAEL UnscriptED

Ever wondered what it really takes to pursue a doctoral degree while leading a school or district? Three dynamic educational leaders from across Georgia pull back the curtain on their journeys through UGA Mary Frances Early College of Education's Educational Leadership doctoral program in this candid conversation filled with practical wisdom and heartfelt encouragement.
Dr. John Paul Hearn (Superintendent, Jenkins County), Amanda Cavin (Principal, Peachtree City Elementary), and Dr. Markita Spikes (Interim Executive Director, Gwinnett County Public Schools) represent diverse educational contexts—from rural to suburban to the state's largest district. Yet their shared experiences reveal universal truths about leadership growth and professional development that transcend district boundaries.
The conversation tackles head-on the concerns that keep many educators from pursuing advanced degrees: balancing demanding careers with rigorous academic work, family responsibilities, and lengthy commutes. As Dr. Hearn notes while reflecting on his experience, "It's the best thing I ever did for me as a professional." Dr. Spikes shares how her eighth-grade son provided critical motivation during a challenging moment: "Mom, there is no quit in this family."
What emerges is a compelling portrait of how UGA's program transforms educational leaders through practical, applicable research directly connected to their daily work. The cohort model creates powerful professional networks that continue years after graduation, with graduates regularly sharing resources, answering questions, and supporting each other through career transitions.
For educators contemplating their next professional step, this conversation offers both inspiration and practical guidance. As all three leaders emphasize their passion for public education and the transformative impact of doctoral studies, they leave listeners with one clear message: "Don't be timid about applying. Just hit submit."
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1. Welcome to Gale Unscripted (00:00:00)

2. Meet the UGA Doctoral Graduates (00:01:02)

3. Balancing Work, Life and Doctoral Studies (00:05:50)

4. Choosing a Dissertation Topic (00:11:04)

5. Learning from Different School Districts (00:14:22)

6. Supporting Future Doctoral Students (00:19:39)

7. Public Education and Final Encouragement (00:23:34)