Gretchen Shirm's Out of the Woods

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Gretchen Shirm is the author of Having Cried Wolf, Where the Light Falls and The Crying Room. You’ve met her on Final Draft before and today she joins us with her new novel Out of the Woods.

Jess has taken a job in the Hague, working as the secretary to an Australian judge presiding over the trial of a man accused of war crimes.

As she struggles to find an equilibrium listening to the horrors committed in war, Jess also struggles within herself to reconcile conflicting feelings about her role as mother and daughter, and what they mean to the people she loves.

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