EP 87 | Who Were The True World Chess Champions?

Dojo Talks: A Chess Podcast

GM Jesse Kraai, IM Kostya Kavutskiy, and IM David Pruess discuss the history of the the World Chess Championship - its many different formats, organizations, and qualifications. What makes someone the real world chess champion? Out of all the world chess champions, who are the real ones?

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0:00 Intro
0:07 3 Perspectives on World Champs
1:36 World Championship as Crucible
3:41 Morphy, Carlsen, and Tennis
4:40 FIDE Legalism
6:07 Champions Before FIDE
7:26 Influence of Time
12:39 Magnus, Morphy, and Others Blew It
14:04 How FiDE Blew It
15:18 Make the Championship Epic
16:56 Who Should Be Involved
18:27 Degrees of Being a Champion
18:55 The FIDE Conundrum
20:47 The Lineage of Greatness
25:27 Kostya Mortifies Jesse and David
25:47 Championship Alternatives
27:37 Importance of Tournaments and Matches
30:30 Critiques of Lineage
34:35 1948 Botvinnik
36:02 Forming the Dojo's Official List
36:38 Ding Liren
37:48 Emanuel Lasker
43:00 Discussion of Everyone Before Steinitz
59:48 David's Dark Horse
1:02:17 Post-Kasparov Troubles
1:14:36 Official Dojo World Champion List

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