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Gifted Kid, Messy Adult

Jessica and Ellie Michaels

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Jessica and Ellie Michaels are two former gifted kids that became messy adults. The married couple discuss their lives as two neurodivergent people and how being neurodivergent has impacted their lives. In addition to discussing their lives, the duo educates listeners about what neurodiversity is and some of the intricacies that go only with it. Occasional interviews with experts and those living under the neurodiversity banner will give listeners more insight into this world to help under t ...
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Share the journey of parenting gifted kids with Sophia as she interviews experts from the global gifted community. Gifted is more than just a high IQ and parenting gifted kids is hard and lonely. Our community shares knowledge, celebrates our quirkiness and provides a safe place to be gifted and neurodivergent. Parents, researchers, psychologists, educators, authors, and more all connect here with advice and support, so we have everything we need for every member of our family to thrive. At ...
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You kid is blessed with extraordinary talents, or so they tell you. But by now you've found out it isn't all sunshine and rainbows. It's definitely not a given that they are happy and thriving. In this podcast Tijl shares daily stories, lessons and practical advice on how to help your gifted kid(s) thrive -and- be happy. While at the same time enjoying your own life as well. Want to learn more? Dive right in and start listening.
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In which Jess and Ellie discuss the joy of bins. https://shorturl.at/r8Sze these things Help keep us alive! https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health Get professional coaching for you or the ND adult in your life https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ Get professional video production for you or the small business in your life …
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In which Jess has a migraine so Ellie kinda babbles on about being a Rules Lawyer. Help keep us alive! https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health Get professional coaching for you or the ND adult in your life https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ Get professional video production for you or the small business in your life https…
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In which Jess and Ellie discuss the Cognitive Shuffle method for falling asleep. https://www.vogue.co.uk/beauty/article/cognitive-shuffle-sleep-method Help keep us alive! https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health Get professional coaching for you or the ND adult in your life https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ Get profession…
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In which Jess and Ellie discuss Tossing. The Nuclear Option of dealing with Doom Piles. Help keep us alive! https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health Get professional coaching for you or the ND adult in your life https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ Get professional video production for you or the small business in your life …
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In which Jess and Ellie discuss the phenomenon of binocular vision in gifted people as covered in this https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNwXSdsW/ post from Dr. Joey Lawrence Help keep us alive! https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health Get professional coaching for you or the ND adult in your life https://coachjessicamichaels.com…
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In this episode, Sophia welcomes William Curb, the creator and host of the 'Hacking Your ADHD' podcast. They discuss the journey of discovering and managing ADHD from lived experiences, the importance of understanding, good strategies, tools and medication. William shares that recognition and acceptance of having ADHD, alongside building routines a…
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One of our new series of 'psychological challenges unique to gifted people' inspired by Dr. Joey Lawrence's video https://www.tiktok.com/@nd_psych/video/7394691914064301319?_r=1&_t=8pEfrNbgrEM https://linktr.ee/neudle Help keep us alive! https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health Get professional coaching for you or the ND …
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In which Jess and Ellie discuss Jess's upcoming book "One Size Fits No One." A book on neuroinclusion in adult education in a corporate environment as well as the procrastination and anxiety neurodivergent people experience when faced with seemingly impossible tasks. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health https://coachj…
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ https://www.elliemichaelsproductions.com/ https://www.patreon.com/TheNeurodiverseWorkplace “We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabul…
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Jess and Ellie discuss the misconceptions about eye contact and why its the worst thing ever if you're neurodivergent. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ https://www.elliemichaelsproductions.com/ https://www.patreon.com/TheNeurodiverseWorkplace…
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In this episode, Dr. Joanne Foster, an expert in gifted education and author, shares her journey and insights into supporting the wellbeing of gifted children. Originating from a classroom experience that sparked her interest in gifted education, Dr. Foster dives into topics such as motivating gifted children, the importance of finding an optimal m…
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Jess and Ellie discuss the difficulty neurodivergent people can have with transitions - moving from one activity to another. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health https://coachjessicamichaels.com/ https://www.elliemichaelsproductions.com/ https://www.patreon.com/TheNeurodiverseWorkplace…
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In this insightful podcast episode, Sophia welcomes Brianne Hudak, a seasoned educator and current doctoral student specializing in educational leadership, to discuss underachievement among gifted students. Brianne shares her extensive experience in various educational roles and her dedication to supporting gifted and talented students. The convers…
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There is a difference in neurodivergent people with how they perceive the world and how others think they should be perceiving the world. These views from the perspective of the neurodivergent can be dismissed or ignored, and it can be a form of emotional abuse. This week, Jess and Ellie discuss the matter and their experiences struggling with chro…
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While autism is a spectrum, there's the growing phrase, "Everyone is a little autistic." You can replace "autistic" with a plethora of other neurodiverse terms. This isn't true, though. Jess and Ellie discuss this phrase and explain why it can be damaging and how it affects people who have been diagnosed and live with these traits. Links: Patreon: …
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In this episode, host Sophia welcomes Dr. Heidi Lack, psychologist and registered art therapist with over three decades of extensive clinical experience. Dr. Lack shares her expertise in behavioural medicine, sensory sensitivities, and neurodiversity, discussing her personal journey and unique experiences with giftedness and misophonia. The convers…
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This may seem like an offbeat episode, but this week, Jess and Ellie are talking about the kitchen and food. The two dive into the world of grocery shopping and self-checkouts--since waiting in line for a cashier feels like a waste of time. They also discuss placing items in their kitchen and why that's important. Links: Patreon: https://www.patreo…
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Welcome to the New Season of Our Gifted Kids Podcast! Join Sophia Elliott as she kicks off a new season of the Our Gifted Kids Podcast. Reflecting on a challenging yet transformative 2023, Sophia shares her journey of personal growth and the balancing act of parenting gifted, neurodivergent children. Learn about exciting new updates, including upco…
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Finally, Jessica and Ellie can talk about something that they love in their personal lives: video games. While there aren't formal studies connecting the neurodivergent community to video gaming, both Jessica and Ellie relate how being neurodivergent and enjoying video games connect for them on a personal level. Links: Patreon: https://www.patreon.…
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The idea that you forget about people's emotions in relation to you or objects, in general, is a part of both neurotypical and neurodiverse communities, but it's something the neurodiverse community deal with a bit more. This week, Jessica and Ellie explain the concept a little bit further and discuss how it affects their lives. Links: Patreon: htt…
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Producer Mat comes back to the show and completely derails the episode within the first minute. Jessica and Ellie answer Mat's questions about pronoun usage and Ellie's experiences as being a trans woman. Diving deep into these worlds--mainly about being Ellie being trans--we all learn a bit more about these worlds and take a walk in someone else's…
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Both Jessica and Ellie grew up as gifted kids, but how did that label affect them growing up, and more importantly, how did that label affect them as adults? The hosts talk about their experiences and where they are now, thinking back to their childhood. Links: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheNeurodiverseWorkplace YouTube: https://www.youtube.c…
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Jessica and Ellie explain what "stimming" is--it's basically an action that stimulates your brain that's soothing to the person doing it. While it is a trait that neurotypical people may do from time-to-time, it is something neurodivergent people do quite a bit. The hosts discuss the finer points of stimming and how each of them stim in their day-t…
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What are autoimmune challenges and how they do effect the neurodivergent community? Jessica opens up about her own recent autoimmune conditions and her diagnosis. Her journey to figure out why these symptoms affect her life. While neither Ellie or Jessica are medical professionals, their stories about dealing with these challenges and their journey…
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Jessica talks about building a community of neurodiversity professionals. Growing up, Jessica knew her experiences as a child weren't like others. Later in life, she realized she wasn't the only person who felt like this. How does this professional community come together and why does it matter? Jessica explains everything about this growing commun…
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As you grow older, the relationship between sleep and yourself becomes more complicated. For those in the neurodivergent community, it can be a bit more of a journey. Jessica and Ellie discuss their relationships with sleep and why many neurodiverse people deal with problems trying to get to sleep each night. The Catieosaurus video that kicked off …
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Ever feel tired, lackadaisical, or maybe you just don't feel like engaging with the outside world? There's a good chance you could be feeling burnout. Everyone can experience this, and on this week's episode Carole Jean Whittington of Whittington Well-Being discusses burnout and how it affects people alongside Jessica and Ellie. Learn more about th…
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When it comes to ADHD, there are plenty of obstacles to overcome. One of the things that have been more recently discussed is the link between ADHD and obesity. At times, a coping mechanism with the chaotic world around neurotypical people is eating, which, in turn, can lead to obesity. On this episode Jessica and Ellie discuss these links and how …
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When does a hobby or something you enjoy lean into the neurodivergent trait of a hyperfixation? Well, the answer is pretty clean, as on this episode of Gifted Kid, Messy Adult, Jessica and Ellie discuss Ellie's hyperfixation on Star Trek. Jessica explains how aspects of Ellie's love for everything Star Trek fits into the neurodivergent column, and …
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Ever felt like you could unleash your inner superhero and save the day, just like in the movies? Prepare to have your perspective shifted as we delve into the world of pop culture and positive psychology, examining the profound lessons that can be applied to parenting gifted children. We're not just talking about any show; we're exploring a series …
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Sometimes, you have to pretend to be ok or pretend you fit in, in order to make yourself feel like a normal, neurotypical in public. This is the idea of masking. Everyone does it, but neurodiverse people tend to do it a lot more. This week, Jessica explains what masking is, and Ellie talks about her experiences as well. Additionally, producer Mat E…
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For everyone, deciding which battles are worth fighting and which ones aren't worth your time, can be a daunting task. For those in the neurotypical community, it can be a tougher decision, and many times, we decide to take up the challenge, even if it's not worth our time or will get us into a bit of trouble. This week, Jessica and Ellie explain w…
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Why even go to sleep when you can be up doing stuff? When you work hard during the day, sometimes you want to stay up and socialize and get things done around the house--or just relax. It's tough to balance work and life, and for those with ADHD (and other neurodivergent folks), it can be even tougher. Instead of going to bed, you read a book or wa…
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We're not even good enough to talk about the topic of imposter syndrome. See what we did there? The feeling of having accomplishments in something but feeling "not worthy" of that praise is a tough pill to swallow for many people, not just neurodivergent folks. Jessica and Ellie discuss the ways they don't feel important enough to talk about things…
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Have you ever wondered what separates successful students from the rest? It's the power of self-regulation, and in our latest episode, we uncover how this key skill can be your ultimate tool for academic triumph. Self-regulation is a cornerstone of effective learning, yet many gifted students find themselves at a loss, having never been challenged …
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Living with autism, ADHD, or the various other types of neurodiversity can mean your brain doesn't function the way a neurotypical brain would. Tasks, day-to-day stresses, and minor obstacles can accumulate for someone struggling in the neurodiversity community. That brings us to the idea of being and feeling overwhelmed. Things pile up over time, …
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While a lot of this podcast has focused on how neurodivergent people deal with things neurotypicals don't have to endure on a day-to-day basis, there is one element of all of this that hasn't been fully discussed yet: being a Gifted Kid. Jessica Michaels discusses her time growing up as a Gifted Kid and just what she experienced in that walk of lif…
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Doompiles. The term isn't as scary as it sounds, but the concept can be overwhelming to the neurodivergent community. Jessica and Ellie Michaels discuss what doompiles are and how they play a role in neurodiversity. How do doompiles affect the hosts in their day-to-day lives. This is all explained and discussed in this episode. Links: Apple Podcast…
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What does it mean to be neurodivergent and who do many people consider to be neurodivergent? This week, Jessica and Ellie discuss this with Gifted Kid, Messy Adult producer Mat Elfring, as he discusses being epileptic and how that affects his mood and emotions. Jessica gives greater insight into how emotions and neurodivergence connect, along with …
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For neurotypical people, making and keeping friends is a far different experience than those who are neurodivergent. From communication to maintaining friendships to expressing empathy, there's lots of difference between the groups. Jessica and Ellie discuss how friendships for the neurodivergent manifest and how they are maintained. Just because a…
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Habits may not be something neurotypical people notice in every day life. However, habits can become problematic for the nuerodiverse. From diving into hobbies that can become something that takes over your life to obsessing over the tiniest thing, those with ADHD, austism, and others can find that habits can take over their lives. In this week's e…
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