What does ”ordinary Christianity” look like exactly? Using Scripture, Church history and personal testimony, two Catholic priests, Frs. Michael and Chris Trummer, and Joe Herring offer a renewed vision of what our lives can be like as Christians. Far from being ”ordinary”, the normal Christian life is an entirely new life empowered by the Holy Spirit -- drawing upon a divine inheritance, manifesting supernatural power, and bearing a staggering promise of glory.
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31. One Body, Many Parts: Internal Family Systems (Inner Healing Series)
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Within Catholic circles in recent years, a new psychological approach has gained traction: Internal Family Systems (IFS). Our hosts believe this approach offers a deeply insightful way of understanding our complex inner world, that synchronizes well with a Christian anthropology. While not professing to be experts, our hosts offer their own underst…
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30. "Deliver Us from Evil": The Reality and Role of Deliverance Ministry (Inner Healing Series)
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Continuing our series on inner healing, Fr. Michael and Fr. Chris team up to introduce the topic of deliverance, and its vital importance within the Christian life. Points addressed include: The real need for spiritual warfare and deliverance in the lives of most people The literal (not figurative) influence of Satan and the demonic within the Bibl…
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29. Forgiveness: The Key to Inner Healing (w/ Miriam Johll) (Inner Healing Series)
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Today's world doesn't put a high premium on forgiveness. But Jesus has given his followers, both by word and by example, a clear mandate of unconditional forgiveness. In this series on inner healing, Miriam Johll returns to join the discussion with Fr. Michael and Fr. Chris. Topics addressed include: the effects of unforgiveness, what forgiveness i…
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28. Truths and Lies w/ Laura Shoulders (Inner Healing Series)
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Laura Shoulders joins our hosts again to discuss true and false beliefs, and their fundamental importance in our healing journey. In this episode, they discuss: How Satan uses lies as his primary weapon How every lie stems from doubting the truth of God's goodness How even small lies can end up having a huge impact on our lives How to identify iden…
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27. Human Formation: A Catholic Responsibility (Inner Healing Series)
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According to Pope St. John Paul II, human formation is the most foundational of all the types of formation required by seminarians. But human formation is not just essential for seminarians - the laity need it as well! "Human formation" refers to the integration of the bodily, emotional, psychological aspects of our humanity; and since "grace perfe…
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26. What's the Deal with Medjugorje? (w/ Mike Nolan)
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For over 40 years now, the alleged apparitions of Mary in Medjugorje (Bosnia and Herzegovina) have been polarizing topic for many Catholics. For some, the apparitions of Mary and the messages are hailed as an extraordinary visitation of grace for our time, with an overabundance of fruits to prove it; while others dismiss the Medjugorje phenomenon a…
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25. Developing a Personal Relationship with Mary (w/ Miriam Johll)
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Miriam Johll is a friend of our hosts. Hailing from Iowa, she has a heart for evangelization and healing ministry. Before diving into our main topic, Miriam shares some of her life testimony of personal healing through encounters with God the Father, and her subsequent launch into ministry. While virtually every Catholic is familiar with Mary - her…
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Do we really believe that Pentecost is an ever-present reality in the Church? Just as health or sickness have diagnosable side effects, so too the presence of the Holy Spirit, first poured out at Pentecost, should have visible "side effects" - both in terms of the fruits of personal heart-transformation (love, joy, peace, etc.), and in its repercus…
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23. Tongues: The Controversial Charism
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The "gift of tongues" (or "speaking in tongues") has been an enduring topic of debate and even controversy within the mainstream Church, as perhaps no other gift has. However, as St. Paul's first letter to the Corinthians indicates, prayer and praise tongues were a normal part of life in the early Church, and clearly have a place in the Christian l…
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22. Power Perfected in Weakness: Testimony by Alma Pederson
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"We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him..." (Romans 8:28). Few can say this with greater assurance than Alma Pederson. One of Fr. Michael's parishioners, Alma shares vulnerably about her challenging upbringing: her years of growing up in a poor family in Mexico; her teenage years financially supporting her family in…
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21. Inner Healing: A Top Priority (Inner Healing Series)
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What exactly is "inner healing"? Is it just another fad of pop spirituality? And if it's not, who needs it? Everyone, or just a few? The answer is: in a fallen world, we all need inner healing. In this episode, our hosts introduce the topic of inner healing, and its crucial role in the renewal of the Church. Topics covered in this episode include: …
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20. "I'm Catholic, and I've Never Experienced God"
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"I hear about people having these powerful spiritual experiences, but I've been a practicing Catholic my whole life and never had one! I guess this is what's normal for me." Our hosts have heard this time and again from faithful Catholics, and they understand -- they too have been there. In this follow-up to Episode 4 (The Role of Supernatural Expe…
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19. The Tongue is a Fire (w/ Mary Bielski and Laura Shoulders)
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The human tongue has real power. By our words, we can choose to reflect the image of God and to bring life and blessing to others, or we can speak death and deface the beauty and goodness of the world around us. In this conversation, Fr. Michael, Mary Bielski, and Laura Shoulders discuss the power of the tongue and the importance of our words. They…
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18. The Role of Women in the Church w/ Laura Shoulders & Mary Bielski
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Providentially released on the (observed) Feast of the Annunciation, this episode is a an honest and affirming conversation between the two priests, and previous guests Laura and Mary, on the roles that women are called to in the Church today. While at first focusing on women's authority in ministry (including the true empowerment the Holy Spirit g…
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17. Kerygma: Reclaiming the Heart of the Gospel (w/ Laura Shoulders)
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While faithful Catholics have many ways of approaching and discussing the Gospel narrative, there is one narrative that lies at its heart. "God so loved the world that he sent His only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." In the season of Holy Week and Easter, there are so many points to reflect on that it's p…
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16. God's Sheep Hear His Voice
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If you are a Christian, God speaks to you . . . and you can expect to hear Him. While our conscience can guide us to distinguish right and wrong, Christianity demands that we be more than just "decent", moral people. Through His Holy Spirit, He wants to give us concrete guidance in our lives as a Shepherd, Father, and Friend. In this episode, our h…
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15. The Power of Prophecy w/ Mike Nolan
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What would you do if God spoke to you directly? God does still speak today through many believers who have the gift of prophecy, but he also wants to give you supernatural revelation to build up others as well! In this episode, Mike joins our hosts again to give an introductory explanation of the charism of prophecy – its varied forms and purposes …
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14. "Jesus Didn't Die for a Powerless Church": Testimony by Mike Nolan
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In the face of the world's challenges, we Christians sometimes feel helpless and settle for spiritual maintenance. But the cross of Jesus has obtained much more for us than just spiritual survival. In his life and ministry, Mike Nolan demonstrates that we can unleash the power of God's kingdom all around us, by simply choosing to receive what alrea…
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12. Objections to the Charismatic Renewal, Part 1: Common Misconceptions
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Christians seeking to live their faith more radically encounter many roadblocks, especially as they develop an interest in the spiritual gifts. In this challenging episode, our hosts attempt to address some of the common misconceptions that needlessly discourage Catholics in particular from embracing the charismatic renewal and spiritual gifts. Som…
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13. Objections to the Charismatic Renewal, Part 2: Real Dangers
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While the previous episode addressed some misconceptions regarding the charismatic renewal and gifts, this episode spells out some of the concerns and even dangers that our hosts have observed within the charismatic lifestyle. While fear is useless (Mark 5:36), prudence and sometimes caution are necessary in the spiritual journey. This frank discus…
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11. God's Faithful Love: Testimony by Fr. Tony Cecil
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Fr. Tony Cecil is a close friend of Fr. Chris who was ordained a priest for the Archdiocese of Louisville, Kentucky in 2019. In his disarming and powerful testimony, Fr. Tony describes his early years growing up with a single father who modeled God's faithfulness to him; his first year as a priest, when anxiety and suffering compelled him to seek i…
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10. New Wineskins: The Purpose of Fasting (Lenten Special)
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Why do we fast, practice self-denial, and learn to say “no” to ourselves? This episode offers a perspective on asceticism that is challenging, yet also profoundly positive. We Christians are called to pursue a radical lifestyle of fasting and self-denial – not to punish ourselves or earn God’s love, but to be freed from earthly attachments and to b…
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8. Purity of Heart w/ Mary Bielski
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In our times of division and sifting, many Christians share the sense that God, far from abandoning his Church, is calling her members to a renewal of authentic purity of heart today. Mary Bielski (national Catholic speaker; founder, All4Him Ministries) shares her powerful testimony, and then joins our hosts to discuss purity of heart through both …
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9. Vocation: Calling, Not Identity (w/ Mary Bielski)
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If you are struggling in the discernment and pursuit of your vocation, this episode is for you! Mary Bielski joins our hosts to address the difficulties that sincere Catholics, young and middle-aged, face today in pursuing or fully embracing God's calling. In particular, they discuss the discouragment and fear that arises when we conflate our bapti…
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7. Is Jesus Healing People Today? Physical Healing and the Gospel
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What role - if any - should physical healing have in Christian life today? Using Scripture and personal testimony, our hosts explain why we should press in for physical healing in prayer: to manifest the compassion of Jesus and demonstrate the power of the Gospel to a world mired in skepticism and unbelief. Supernatural healing makes the Kingdom ta…
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6. Becoming the Beloved: Embracing Our Baptismal Identity
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Should baptized people see themselves differently? At baptism, our identity is radically transformed from that of a loved creation of God, made in His image, to that of His own adopted son or daughter. But for many Christians, this does not translate to a radical awareness of their adoption by the Father. Our hosts share their insights on being a c…
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5. Fear of Man w/ Laura Shoulders
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One of the greatest snares set before us in our Christian journey is what Scripture calls "the fear of man". Laura Shoulders from Owensboro, KY shares her testimony of encountering God, before jumping into the topic with our hosts: what "fear of man" is, why it's so powerful, and the Lord's remedy which offers us true freedom.…
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4. The Role of Supernatural Experience
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Do you expect the supernatural in your life? In this episode, the hosts share reasons why concrete experiences of God and the supernatural have been from the beginning, and should still be today, a normal and necessary part of lived Christianity. In addition, they discuss the vitally important role that our feelings and emotions play in living an a…
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3. ”Baptism in the Holy Spirit”: The Divine Solution
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In our time, God has addressed the crisis of faith by reawakening his Church to his presence, through a grace called "Baptism in the Holy Spirit". After explaining the theology behind this term and some characteristics of the grace itself, the hosts share testimonies of how they have each experienced baptism in the Spirit within their own lives, an…
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2. Rethinking Renewal: Seeking God's Vision for His Church
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While most members of the Church agree on the need for renewal, there are many different views on what renewal should look like. The Frs. Trummer and Joe propose that, instead of relying on programs, we look to God's promises and the witness of the saints, "so that your faith may not rest in the wisdom of men but on the power of God" (1 Cor 2:5).…
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1. Normal Christianity = Extraordinary Life
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In this introductory episode, Frs. Michael and Chris Trummer, and layman Joe Herring, explain their inspiration behind the title and concept of this new podcast. They then each share testimonies of how the Lord has drawn them together over the past ten years, kindling in them the same passion for understanding and pursuing the fullness of our Chris…
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