DCD Zero Downtime is DCD's editorially-led podcast. In each episode, our editorial team will be talking with leading members of the data center and digital infrastructure community, delving deeper into the future of the industry and its major challenges.
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Episode 63 - Growing the workforce with Nabeel Mahmood, Nomad Futurist
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We are all acutely aware that the data center industry has an aging, and thus thinning, workforce. But what can we do about it? In this episode, we talk to Nabeel Mahmood, managing director of Nomad Futurist - a non-profit dedicated to increasing awareness about the world of digital infrastructure - about how we can bring more people into the indus…
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Episode 62 - Using data center heat to grow algae with Linda Lescuyer, Data4
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Data center operators are getting serious about waste heat and, more specifically, what to do with it. While the solution for many is to pump it back into nearby district heating systems, other companies are getting more creative and using warmth from servers to heat aquafarms and greenhouses. European operator Data4 has joined a project which aims…
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Episode 61 - Data centers down under with David Hirst, Macquarie Data Centres
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Data center markets vary wildly by location, and in this episode we head "down under" to the wonderful land of Australia. With the AI boom in full across the globe, Australia is no different and experiencing increased demand. We talk to David Hirst, who heads up Australia's Macquarie Data Centers, about the trends he is seeing in the country, how M…
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Episode 60 - Verizon on preparing its network for natural disasters, with Mark Paff and Cory Davis
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During a natural disaster, networks often go down. This can massively impact rescue missions in some cases. The importance of network operators and the role they play in responding to unpredictable moments is something that should be highlighted. We spoke to Verizon to see how it prepares its response to hurricanes and tornados, and find out the le…
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Episode 59 - Entering the cloud market as a new player, with Cory Hawkvelt, CTO of NexGen Cloud
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With the cloud market already over-saturated, it is hard to imagine how a new company can make its mark. NexGen Cloud is seeking to do just that, with plans to build a sustainable cloud specializing in HPC and GPU infrastructure called "super cloud." We talk about how NexGen is going to achieve this, the steps taken thus far and why the company thi…
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Episode 58 - Smarter energy and the future of Ireland’s power grid with Michael Phelan, GridBeyond
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Sourcing adequate amounts of power to run new facilities is a problem that keeps even the most seasoned data center operators awake at night. Many are looking at new technologies such as battery storage to help meet their power demands, but ensuring these assets operate efficiently can be a challenge. Dublin-based GridBeyond thinks it can help by p…
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Episode 57 - Precision cooling and political optimism, with David Craig, Iceotope
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With AI dramatically driving up density, data center cooling is getting much more interesting. Iceotope is one of the companies exploring the most efficient and sustainable way to cool down data centers - and their solution is precision cooling. On the face of it, precision cooling resembles immersion cooling - viscous liquid? Check. Bathtub-like c…
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Episode 56 - Mushroom recycling with Joanne Rodriguez, Mycocycle
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Mushrooms can be used to build more than just toad-stools. In this episode, Joanne Rodriguez, CEO at Mycocycle, talks about using mycelium to break down data center construction waste and make new construction materials. Listen in to this fung-guide to the future of waste management.
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Episode 55 - The half-life of nuclear data centers with Chris Lohse, Idaho National Laboratory
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Nuclear power may have its detractors, but amid a growing capacity crunch data center operators are becoming increasingly interested in whether atoms can provide the electrons needed to power tomorrow's high-density facilities. In this episode, Chris Lohse of the Idaho National Laboratory, talks about the recent innovations around nuclear power, th…
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Episode 54 - Industry-wide sustainability with John Booth, Carbon3IT
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Sustainability needs to be applied at all levels of the data center industry, and we are not doing enough, says John Booth of Carbon3IT. In this episode of Zero Downtime, we sit down with sustainability consultant John Booth to talk about how he got where he is in his career, and the fundamental sustainability issues that he is seeing in the data c…
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Episode 53 - The UK data center market with Luisa Cardani, TechUK
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Bringing the L to FLAP-D, the UK has a prominent data center market. But like all other tier-one markets, London is struggling with space and power capacity. Because of this, the UK's data center industry will have to diversify, all while meeting increasingly regimented regulations. In this episode, we talk to trade association TechUK's Luisa Carda…
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Episode 52 - Why Oxide rebuilt the rack from scratch
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Oxide Computer has been rebuilding the rack. In this podcast, CTO Bryan Cantrill tells us why. The data center industry has been building its own infrastructure for years, with the wrong components. Servers weren't designed to be operated in data centers, and the 1U rack unit is the wrong size, because of simple science. Part of the success of the …
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Episode 51 - Make way for bigger hard drives with B S Teh, CCO of Seagate
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Think hard drives have hit their storage limits, and should be replaced by solid-state units? You could be wrong. Hard drives have been holding our data for nearly 70 years since IBM created the 350, which stored something like 4 Mbyte on dozens of spinning disks in a unit the size of a washing machine. Today's devices are orders of magnitude bette…
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Episode 50 - The fundamentals of quantum computing with Yuval Boger, QuEra
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In this episode of Zero Downtime, we break down the fundamentals of quantum computing - the different approaches out there, the challenges to bringing it into a widespread commercial reality, and the potential use cases that quantum may help with. To help divulge this, we speak to QuEra's Yuval Boger who shares a little about the company's experien…
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Episode 49 - How CDNs quietly took over the Internet, with Mark de Jong, CDN Alliance
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25 years ago, the first content delivery networks (CDNs) emerged, to solve a specific problem - how to make web pages load faster. More than two decades later, 72 percent of Internet content is delivered through CDNs. But the companies involved are still almost invisible - until something goes wrong. In 2021, in a series of outages, large numbers o…
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Episode 48 - How to face up to regulations, with Venessa Moffat, EkkoSense
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Europe has an Energy Efficiency Directive, Germany has an Energy Efficiency Act, and operators there can be fined for inefficiency. Meanwhile, Amsterdam has declared war on sleeping servers, and set limits on where facilities can be built. Across Europe, in response to congested electric grids and shortages of land, local governments are stepping i…
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Episode 47 - Hydrogen data centers get real, with Yuval Bachar, ECL
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At the start of 2023, Yuval Bachar told us about his latest project - to build off-grid, hydrogen-powered data centers. As 2023 came to an end, he was back to tell us he'd done it. He's got 1MW of capacity fed by hydrogen in Mountain View California, and he's telling potential customers he can build the same thing anywhere you can get hydrogen ship…
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Episode 46 - Telecoms in troubling times with Ineke Botter
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Ever wonder what it would be like to be a CEO at a telecom company in a country that is at war? That’s been the reality on a couple of occasions for Ineke Botter, who has headed telecom companies in Kosovo and Lebanon. Her career has taken across Europe and beyond, spanning more than 30 years. She’s even worked in the data center industry too. List…
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Episode 45 - Construction and resilience amid power instability with Neal Kalita, NTT GDC
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The European data center market has a forecasted take-up of 440MW for 2023. But within the context of erratic power availability, moratoriums, and the need to move to renewable energy, the FLAP-D markets are facing several challenges. In this episode we talk to Neal Kalita about the obstacles facing those looking to build in Europe, and what the fu…
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Episode 44 - Data centers going nuclear, with Tony Grayson, Compass Datacenters
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Data centers need to be more sustainable, but finding consistent and powerful energy resources can be a challenge. Increasingly, we are seeing nuclear entering the conversation, in the form of Small Modular Reactors (SMRs). But these aren't without their own controversies. In this episode, we talk with Compass Datacenters' Tony Grayson to discuss t…
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Episode 43 - Energy use and AI with Alex de Vries, Digiconomist
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Artificial intelligence could grow from almost nothing to using half a percent of the world's electrical power within five years, according to Alex de Vries of Digiconomist. That's a crazy rate of growth, but it's not unprecedented. Bitcoin followed almost exactly the same trajectory, expanding from nothing to a sector whose energy use is comparabl…
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Episode 42 - The irrepressible Bill Kleyman
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We talk to Bill Kleyman, now at machine learning company Neu.ro, about his lengthy data center career. How did he get into the sector, what did he learn at Switch, and how does he balance life and travel? Tune in to find out.
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Episode 41 - Do data centers truly bring economic benefits to their location? With Max Schulze, SDIA
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Data centers have outgrown their anonymity. They are large enough consumers of energy and space, that they have to enter the political landscape and justify their existence. But how do we know if a data really brings benefits to its location? In some places (like London), it appears that they soak up grid connection capacity and block housing proje…
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Episode 40 - Plenty of submarine cables in the sea with Elena Badiola, Exa Infrastructure
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Ever wondered about the practical challenges of connecting our continents? In this podcast episode, we talk with Exa Infrastructure's Elena Badiola about the process of getting subsea cables underwater: from environmental surveys to climate change, to funding challenges. Elena also shares her experience of living on a cable ship for five weeks afte…
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Episode 39 - How will we start to use hydrogen? With Mark Monroe
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In 2022, Mark Monroe's podcast about hydrogen was one of our most popular podcasts ever. At Microsoft, Mark had just made a prototype hydrogen fuel cell UPS system that could potentially replace diesel generators to provide low-carbon backup power at data centers. One year on, he's back for some more detail. A hydrogen economy will need a distribut…
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Episode 38 - ICT Environmentalism and the Sustainability Game, with Hunter Vaughan and Nicole Starosielski
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If you want to make infrastructure sustainable, you need to be very careful what words you use. That's what Hunter Vaughan and Nicole Starosielski found, through their involvement in a project to make subsea cables sustainable. Words like "sustainability" and "climate neutral" can mean different things, depending on who is talking. And if what you …
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Episode 37 - Actions speak louder than code with Anne Currie, Green Software Foundation
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If you think transitioning the tech sector to net zero is all about renewable energy and heat reuse, think again. Small changes in software could make entire data centers redundant - for a much bigger saving for the planet. Green Software is not just about more efficient code, says Anne Currie. Rewriting everything in C might cut energy use - but i…
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Episode 36 - Developing Internet protocols with Mirjam Kuhe, RIPE
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How does the Internet keep running? A close-knit community of engineers has been developing and supporting the protocols that support it for more than forty years. During that time, new Internet services have emerged and scaled beyond recognition, and new features have been added, all without breaking the whole system. Mirjam Kuhne has been closely…
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Episode 35 - Taking inspiration from the GSMA in a push to drive the broadband industry with Martin Creaner
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The global interests of the mobile industry are represented by the GSM Association (GSMA). This governing body was established in 1995 to support mobile operators using the GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) standard for cellular networks. It has become synonymous with the mobile industry and has driven it forward through industry progra…
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Episode 34 - When will quantum computers reach the data center? We talk to Chris Monroe, IonQ
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Quantum computing is still pretty mysterious, but data center operators have real questions: when will they need installation and support? And how much cooling will they need? Chris Monroe, chief scientist at IonQ, gives us the answers, along with plenty of other solid facts about an emerging technology that can seem as illusory as Schrodinger's ca…
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Episode 33 - Empowering women in tech with Kelley Mullick, Iceotope
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There has been an ongoing issue with the representation of women in the tech industry, but why? In this episode, we talk to Kelley Mullick about her career to date, the factors that have helped her get to where she is, and the importance of supporting and empowering women to pursue these careers so they can find confidence within themselves. We als…
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Episode 32 - Underground data centers with Andrew Bourget, Eccus
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Having trouble finding a location for your data center project? This DCD podcast could have the answer. Build underground. Andrew Bourget of Swiss engineering firm Eccus has a design for a 2MW data center built in an underground tunnel - and he can dig that tunnel wherever you want it, even under existing buildings. The way he tells it, tunneling i…
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Episode 31 - Mark Bjornsgaard of Deep Green on heating swimming pools with data center heat
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In March this year, a swimming pool in Devon, UK, was the unlikely setting for the most widely covered data center story (so far) of 2023. A small immersion-cooled high-performance computing module from Deep Green is giving its heat to the swimming pool, saving Exmouth Leisure Centres £20,000 ($24,000) per year. It's not the first time data center …
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Episode 30 - The state of cloud gaming and VR with Omdia's George Jijiashvili
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Cloud gaming was heralded as the future of games, and was set to become a major data center workload. Now, after the death of Google Stadia and layoffs at Amazon's Luna, what's left for data center gaming? We catch up with Omdia's George Jijiashvili to discuss all things gaming, as well as VR, AR, and a dash of the metaverse.…
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Episode 29 - The nuclear energy silver bullet with Tony Grayson, Compass Data Centers and Alan Howard, OMDIA
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As 2030 approaches, the pressure on data centers to meet their carbon pledges continues to increase. This, compounded with the challenge of energy supply insecurity and rising costs, is driving data centers to look to new methods of powering their operations, which has triggered nuclear power to come to the fore. However, as a result of historical …
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Episode 28 - The future of hyperscale networking, with Juniper Networks' Mike Bushong
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As data center demands grow, hyperscalers are building out vast networks that will help define the future of how infrastructure is interconnected. In the latest episode of the DCD Zero Downtime podcast, we connect with Juniper Networks' group vice president of cloud-ready data center, Mike Bushong, to discuss what this means, and what we should exp…
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Episode 27 - The 2G and 3G switch-off and what it means for 5G and IoT with Wireless Logic Group CPO, Paul Bullock
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Recently there’s been a number of mobile operators switching off their 3G networks around the world, or scheduling to phase out this old technology. 2G has also been spoken about at length, but has a slightly longer shelf-life than 3G, as it provides a backbone that still supports the IoT industry today. But what does any of this mean, and why does…
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Episode 26 - There's something about Maryland, with Quantum Loophole CEO Josh Snowhorn
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As land and power in Virginia's Loudoun County become increasingly scarce, data center developers are seeking fresh ground on which build. While many are moving south within Virginia to the likes of Prince William County, Quantum Loophole is hoping to lure companies north into Maryland. A former aluminum smelting works, the company's maiden campus …
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Episode 25 - Meeting the pioneer of Meet-me rooms with Hunter Newby
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Hunter Newby doesn't claim to have invented the Meet-Me Room, but he created one of the first, in the iconic and historical Manhattan facility, 60 Hudson Street, in about 1998 At the time data centers had separate connections from multiple carriers, and linking between those carriers meant running a link between their connection points - and paying…
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Episode 24 - Immerse yourself in liquid cooling with NAAT CTO Julius Neudorfer
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Join us for an extended discussion with CTO and founder of North American Access Technologies Julius Neudorfer about the history of liquid cooling, and where he sees the market developing in the future.
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Episode 23 - Exploring the Edge with AtlasEdge COO Zahl Limbuwala
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Formed by DigitalBridge and Liberty Global, AtlasEdge has quickly become one of the Edge industry's largest players. We chat to COO Zahl Limbuwala about how it defines the Edge and where it places its servers.
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Episode 22 - Understanding IT Efficiency with Rich Kenny, Interact managing director
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For years, operators have been trying to make their data centers more efficient by optimizing the cooling and power distribution in the facility - and have more or less ignored the IT equipment in the racks. PUE - the most popular data center metric - simply optimized the ancillary equipment, trying to approach a "perfect" figure of 1.0, where all …
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Episode 21 - How to handle an outage, with Cloudflare CTO John Graham-Cumming
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In this episode, we talk to Cloudflare's CTO John Graham-Cumming about how to respond to an outage at your company. We also discuss why the company bans the use of the word "Edge," and talk about the company's 'Supercloud.'
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Episode 20 - Talking photonic computing with Lightmatter CEO Nick Harris
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Can light be used to compute? We talk to Nick Harris, CEO of chip startup Lightmatter, about how the company hopes to harness photons for AI computing and as a data center interconnect.
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Episode 19 - Bits and bricks with Digital Realty CTO Chris Sharp
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What does a technologist do at a real estate company? We talk to Digital Realty's CTO Chris Sharp about the importance of understanding both bits and bricks, discuss the company's interconnection efforts, and do a quickfire round on which future technologies will transform the data center.
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Episode 18 - The origin of the Internet of Things with Peter Lewis
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Most people think the Internet of Things is a recent idea, maybe dating to around the year 2000. In fact, the idea is some 15 years older than that. In 1985, the Internet was officially two years old. It linked up some 2000 hosts, and a handful of people used email. In that year, cellular phones were the size of bricks, and almost no one had one. A…
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Episode 17 - The impact of climate legislation on digital infrastructure with Stephen Harper, global director of Intel
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After a hiatus of several years, climate change policy is taking off in the US, with the Biden-Harris Administration using the Inflation Reduction Act and the Energy Earthshot to accelerate the clean energy economy. But data center energy policy goes back a lot further than that. Stephen Harper, Intel's Global Director, Environment and Energy Polic…
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Episode 16 - Green software with David Mytton, CEO and co-founder of Console
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Efforts to reduce the environmental impact of our digital world tend to start with the cooling systems at data centers, and rarely get any further. The tech industry created PUE as a simple metric which could express how efficiently power is delivered to the racks, but did not consider what happens to that power when it gets there. That’s not good …
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Episode 15 - Tracking data center power use with LBNL's Dr. Arman Shehabi
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As grids around the world struggle to meet demand amid heatwaves and wars, data center power and water usage is increasingly coming under scrutiny. We talk to the researcher who has spent years trying to track the sector's consumption, so that regulators and companies alike can access accurate figures on a secretive sector.…
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Episode 14 - Building facilities for Google with Sarah Godbehere
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What's it like building facilities for Google, in the epicenter of data center construction - Northern Virginia? Sarah Godbehere has spent the last three years managing construction on a Google campus in Northern Virginia. She tells us what it's like to be a young woman in an industry full of older men, and shares how she turns potential conflicts …
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