The inner workings of Wikipedia (Changelog Interviews #668)

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Let’s hear how Wikipedia actually works from long-time Wikipedian, Bill Beutler! Bill has been heavily involved with this “8th wonder of the modern world” for two decades and even built a career on it, founding Beutler Ink –a digital agency known for its pioneering work in Wikipedia public relations.

We discuss: the official (and not so official) rules, the editor cabal (which isn’t one), the business model (which really isn’t one), how an edit sticks (or not), how AI chatbots threaten the future of the site (or don’t), and a whole lot more.

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Featuring:

• Bill Beutler – Website, LinkedIn, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• There Is No Cabal
• Beutler Ink
• The Notability Company
• Eugen Rochko

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

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1. Welcome to The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Tiger Data (00:01:22)

https://www.tigerdata.com

3. Start the show! (00:02:59)

4. A Wikipedian (00:04:26)

5. Policies and guidelines (00:08:03)

6. Wikipedia PR (00:11:48)

7. How much is too much (00:16:17)

8. There Is No Cabal (00:17:38)

9. Consultipedia (00:21:23)

10. Political leanings (00:23:55)

11. The 6th pillar (00:28:36)

12. Sponsor: Augment Code (00:31:21)

https://www.augmentcode.com

13. AI reads the wiki (00:32:57)

14. Jerod's failed edits (00:38:47)

15. Please donate (00:40:42)

16. The next generation (00:46:23)

17. More than a job (00:49:31)

18. Verifiability (00:50:11)

19. Sponsor: Depot (00:57:15)

https://depot.dev

20. Sponsor: Framer (01:00:01)

https://www.framer.com/design/

21. Bill's failed edits (01:01:52)

22. Adam clicks twice (01:02:54)

23. Bro, do you even wiki? (01:06:04)

24. Open edit requests (01:08:22)

25. Edit bait (01:09:37)

26. Bad actors (01:10:36)

27. How a page is born (01:13:15)

28. Wiki PR cabal (01:16:41)

29. Wikinomics (01:18:32)

30. The Notability Company (01:24:52)

31. Earned media (01:30:18)

32. Jerod finds a falsehood (01:35:35)

33. Bill throws us an edit (01:39:07)

34. Bad source beats no source (01:41:58)

35. Wrapping up (01:45:12)

36. Closing thoughts (join ++) (01:47:07)

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