Building a Brain Rot IDE | Clad Labs YC F25
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From middle school basketball teammates to Y Combinator founders building the world's first "brain rot IDE," Kevin and Richard's journey is a masterclass in persistence, pivoting, and having fun while building.
We discuss:
How they met in middle school and reconnected to start building
Richard's seven YC applications (and why only the last one counted)
Getting rejected with "I hate this idea" and coming back stronger
Building to 1.5M users, then pivoting 24 hours before their YC interview
Why iteration speed matters more than coding speed or sales velocity
Skipping ad impressions entirely and going straight to user acquisition
The Chad IDE: integrating Tinder, TikTok, and gambling into your coding workflow
Hiring two interns during YC and why they took the risk
Why having fun is their most important metric
Real advice: sell before you build, just do it, don't overthink frameworks
If you're a startup founder, someone who's applied to YC, or just love hearing authentic stories about the messy middle of building, this episode is for you.
About Clad Labs: Clad Labs is building the Chad IDE—an AI-powered development environment that keeps you productive during code generation by integrating entertainment directly into your workflow. They're also pioneering a new advertising model that skips impressions and goes straight to user acquisition for dev tools. https://cladlabs.ai
About ImagineAI: We build your B2B content pipeline so prospects find you, trust you, and book meetings before your competitors even get a reply. https://www.imagineai.me/
Learn more about Richard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-wang-39554994/
Learn more about Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lekevin2/
Learn more about Neo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neo-lky/
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Timestamps
0:00 – Cold Open: Best YC Advice
0:41 – Welcome to Signal Line
0:53 – Who Are Kevin and Richard?
1:29 – How Two Middle School Friends Started Building Together
2:27 – The First Idea: AI Ads and RAG
3:19 – "I Hate This Idea" – Getting Rejected by YC
4:33 – Richard's Seven YC Applications
5:17 – The Pivot 24 Hours Before the Interview
6:35 – YC's Best Advice: Iteration Speed Over Everything
7:27 – YC's Worst Advice: They're Too Nice
8:05 – The Truth About Fundraising and Pivoting
9:08 – Why We Hired Two Interns During YC
10:12 – How to Convince People to Join Your Startup
11:16 – What the Chad IDE Actually Does
13:55 – The World's First Brain Rot IDE
14:33 – Our Go-to-Market Strategy: Have Fun
15:24 – No Framework, Just Vibes
16:17 – Where We Go to Think (Spoiler: Nowhere)
17:08 – Advice for Early Stage Founders
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