The modern web is changing fast. Front-end frameworks evolve quickly, standards are emerging and old ones are fading out of favor. There are a lot of things to learn, but knowing the right thing is more critical than learning them all. Modern Web Podcast is an interview-style show where we learn about modern web development from industry experts. We’re committed to making it easy to digest lots of useful information!
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Modern Web Podcast S12E41 - Vaadin for Java on the Frontend with Lawrence Lockhart
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel and Danny Thompson chat with Lawrence Lockhart, Developer Advocate at Vaadin, about using Java on the front end. Lawrence introduces Vaadin’s frameworks, Flow and Hilla, which empower Java developers to build full-stack applications without needing JavaScript. They discuss Vaadin's web components,…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E40 - Learning Paths for Next.JS Developers with Ankita Kulkarni
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Rob Ocel and co-hosts Tracy Lee, Adam Rackis, and Danny Thompson talk with tech educator Ankita Kulkarni about her journey from engineering leader to full-time educator. Ankita shares insights on teaching Next.js, bridging practical knowledge gaps, and helping developers tackle real-world challenges. They discuss Next.js as a React-based framework,…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E39- Fly.io for Easier Cloud Deployment with Annie Sexton
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Annie Sexton, Developer Advocate at Fly.io, to discuss Fly.io’s approach to simplifying cloud deployment. Annie shares Fly.io's unique position as a public cloud that offers the flexibility of infrastructure control with a streamlined developer experience. They explore Fly.io’s private networking and distributed app capabilities, allowing developer…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E38- Angular Signals for Simpler State Management and DOM Performance with Braydon Coyer
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, host Rob Ocel is joined by Adam Rackis, Danny Thompson, and guest Braydon Coyer, Senior Front-End Developer at LogicGate to talk about using Angular Signals for improved state management and DOM performance. Braydon explains how Signals simplify Angular development and offer better readability and efficien…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E37- Java’s AI Evolution: Semantic Caching JVM, and GenAI Architectures with Theresa Mamarella & Brian Sam-Bodden
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Danny Thompson, Director of Technology at This Dot Labs, hosts a conversation with Theresa Mammarella, JVM engineer at IBM, and Brian Sam-Bodden, Applied AI Engineer at Redis. They explore their talks at JCONF in Dallas, Texas, covering topics like GenAI architectures in the Java community and OpenJDK's Pr…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E36- Unit Testing, TypeScript, and AI: Enhancing Code Quality and Productivity in 2024
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, host Rob Ocel and co-hosts Adam Rackis, Tracy Lee, and Danny Thompson discuss the importance of unit testing for maintaining code quality and reliability, emphasizing its role in scaling projects and ensuring long-term stability. The conversation also highlights the benefits of TypeScript in improving code…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E35- How to Create a Memorable Conference Experience with Vincent Mayers
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Danny Thompson, Director of Technology at This Dot Labs, sits down with Vincent Mayers, a seasoned tech conference organizer with over 15 years of experience. They discuss the intricacies of running successful conferences, including the challenges of selecting event locations, building community engagement…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E34- Building Scalable AI Applications: Insights from AWS's Michael Liendo
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Rob Ocel, Danny Thompson, and Adam Rackis talk with Michael Liendo, Senior Developer Advocate at AWS, about building practical AI applications and tackling challenges like scalability, multimodal functionality, and cloud infrastructure choices. Michael shares insights on tools like AWS Amplify and DynamoDB…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E33- The Journey To Making A New Framework: TanStack Start with Tanner Linsley
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Danny Thompson, Director of Technology at This Dot Labs, talks with Tanner Linsley, Creator of TanStack, about his latest project, TanStack Start. They discuss the challenges of existing frameworks like Next.js and Remix, the development of TanStack Router, and the future of React Server Components. Tanner also explains how caching strategies and f…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E32- Why is It so HARD to Break Into Tech with Jason Torres
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Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel chat with Jason Torres about the challenges of breaking into tech, especially for self-taught and underrepresented developers. Jason shares his journey from a 15-year career in the film industry to pursuing software development, discussing the emotional and financial hurdles involved. They also discuss the importance of netwo…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E31- Balancing Innovation with Compliance and Privacy Concerns in Healthcare with John Crighton, CTO Lightning Step
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In this episode of the Leadership Exchange, John Crichton, Chief Technology Officer at Lightning Step Technologies, shares insights on balancing privacy and compliance requirements while fostering innovation in the electronic medical records (EMR) space. The discussion explores the complexities of healthcare data, the evolving use of AI to improve …
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Modern Web Podcast S12E30- The Evolution of AI Tooling & Ethical AI Practices with Shivay Lamba
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Machine Learning and AI expert Shivay Lamba, discusses the evolution of machine learning tools, and his work on MLOps and deploying large language models (LLMs). The conversation covers the accessibility of AI, the power of JavaScript in machine learning through tools like TensorFlow.js, and the growing importance of ethical AI practices. Shivay al…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E29- Why TypeScript is the Most Important Tool in Open-Source with Nick Taylor
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Nick Taylor, Senior Software Engineer at OpenSauce discusses the current state of open source, including the challenges around funding, sustainability, and contributor burnout. Nick shares insights into how open source has impacted his career and highlights the growing importance of tools like TypeScript i…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E28- The Evolution of CSS: From Early Days to Flexbox & Grid with Kevin Powell
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, CSS expert Kevin Powell discusses the evolution of CSS, from the early days of CSS3 to the rapid advancements with Flexbox, Grid, and the latest innovations. Kevin explains how CSS is making strides to integrate features that previously required JavaScript, like scroll-driven animations and popovers, simpl…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E27- How AI is Evolving: Code Completion, Legacy code, LLMs with CS Dojo’s YK Sugi
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YK Sugi, Senior AI Developer Advocate at Sourcegraph and founder of CS Dojo, shares his journey from coding with MATLAB to working at Google and founding his YouTube channel, and how ChatGPT inspired his shift towards AI-driven applications. Along with our hosts, he discusses AI's impact on coding, particularly in large codebases, and the role of t…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E26- Docker: The Secret Weapon for Cloud Efficiency with Kyle Tryon
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Rob Ocel, Tracy Lee, Adam Rackis, and Danny Thompson sit down with Kyle Tryon, Senior Developer Advocate at Depot, to talk all things Docker, dev containers, and modern build systems. They break down how Docker simplifies development by solving those "it works on my machine" problems, how cloud-based caching speeds up builds, and why tools like Kub…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E25- How to Take Extreme Ownership Over Your Engineering Efforts with Nate Emerson
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Nate Emerson is both a self-taught developer and a computer science university grad. How is that possible? In this episode, Nate talks about his unusual career trajectory, and what it has taught him about the differences between being self-taught vs. formal education in software development. Along with Tracy Lee and Jason Torres, he discusses leade…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E24- How to Invest in New Software Engineering Talent with Shashi Lo
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, we sit down with Shashi Lo, Senior UX Engineer at Microsoft and the founder of the Gridiron Survivor project. Shashi shares his approach to mentoring junior developers by helping them bridge the gap between boot camp and their first job in tech. We cover the challenges of onboarding, the importance of code…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E23- Challenges of Growing into a Software Leadership Role with Gant Laborde
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In this episode, Rob Ocel sits down with Gant Laborde, CIO at Infinite Red, to explore Gant's journey in the tech industry, his transition into leadership, and his role as a Chief Innovation Officer. Gant shares insights into the challenges and rewards of innovation within a company, how to manage upward and downward effectively, and the importance…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E22- Color Theory For Software Engineers + Color Accessibility & Performance with Sarah Shook
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In this episode of the Modern Web podcast, Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel sit down with Sarah Shook, a UI/UX engineer at Hunter Industries. They discuss the topic of Sarah’s THAT Conference talk on color theory, exploring the intricacies of RGB, HSL, and hex color models. The discussion also touches on the importance of understanding how color accessibilit…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E21- "Do What Matters with Who Matters While It Matters" Mark Techson on Leadership
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Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel sit down with Mark Thompson, aka "Mark Techson", to explore key themes around personal branding, workplace culture, and leadership. Mark shares his journey of building a strong personal brand, discussing how consistent online presence can shape public perception and create professional opportunities. The conversation provides…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E20- Acing the Interview for Software Engineers with Anthony D. Mays
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In this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Anthony D. Mays discusses code exercises, landing your first job, and how to succeed in interviews. He shares his personal journey to becoming a software engineer and career coach, and emphasizes the importance of not only having technical knowledge but also a strong problem-solving process. The conversati…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E19- Kent C. Dodds on Why he Traded Angular for React, Launching EpicWeb.dev, + What’s Next for EpicReact.dev
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Kent C. Dodds joins Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel at THAT Conference-WI for a discussion about his journey from being an Angular developer to becoming a leading figure in the React community. Kent shares his motivations for making the switch, detailing how React's focus on JavaScript fundamentals and its incremental adoption of new features appealed to hi…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E18- Browser Native APIs with Rachel Nabors
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Rachel Lee Nabors talks about the challenge of remaining current with new APIs and libraries, and how to prioritize which technologies you should invest your time in. Along with Tracy Lee, Rachel discusses their project of refactoring a demo using modern APIs and the benefits of challenging oneself with browser native APIs. The conversation also co…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E17- Don’t Make It Difficult to Engage with Your Brand: DevRel with Jonan Scheffler
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Jonan Scheffler talks about bridging gaps between a brand and a developer community while also discussing the challenges DevRel teams face when aligning their goals with organizational objectives. Sponsored by This Dot Labs Watch this episode on YouTube Read more on our blog
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Modern Web Podcast S12E16- Tim Neutkens, Co-Author of Next.js on the State of Next
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Tim Neutkens, Co-author and Tech Lead for Next.js, discusses how open source maintainers are simplifying the web, and covers the challenges faced with the current Next.js setup. Tim talks about TurboPack, a solution that optimizes bundling, improves parallelism, caching, and module graph calculations. He also talks about TurboAC, which focuses on a…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E15- Agentic AI: What Does AI Agency Mean Our Future? Safety and Security with Tejas Kumar
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Tejas Kumar and Tracy Lee discuss AI models, tool calling, and Vercel's AI SDK for generating components. They explore AI agency, the importance of documentation, safety concerns, regulation, and the need for human oversight in AI development. Sponsored by This Dot Watch this episode here.
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Modern Web Podcast S12E14- What’s Great About TypeScript ESLint v8 + The “Trough of Disillusionment” in Adoption with Josh Goldberg
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Josh Goldberg, TypeScript ES-Lint Maintainer, discusses the newest features and benefits of TypeScript ESLint v8, AI in coding, and industry adoption cycles. He highlights the improved performance and type-aware linting feature of TypeScript ESLint v8. They talk about the importance of using proper tools for better coding outcomes, the "trough of d…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E13- These JavaScript Tools Make Collaboration and Deployment Easier with Jack Herrington
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Join Jack Herrington and Tracy Lee at CascadiaJS 2024 as they talk about content creation, experimenting with new tools, and continuous learning. They cover some of the latest in what’s going on in the Vercel, Next.js, and Deno Deploy ecosystems, and what these teams are doing to enable easy deployment and better community collaboration. Sponsored …
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Modern Web Podcast S12E12- Observables: Coming to a Browser Near You with Dominic Farolino (Google Chrome)
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Dominic Farolino, Software Engineer on the Google Chrome team, shares his exciting work on adding observables to the browser as a web platform primitive to enhance web performance. He discusses the benefits of incorporating observables into browsers, simplifying developer workflows, and their efforts to make RxJS a widely used library. They also hi…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E11- Integrating AI models into Dev Platforms (Low-Code, Accessibility, and APIs) with Amanda Martin from Wix
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In this interview at RenderATL 2024, Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel interview Amanda Martin, a developer advocate at Wix, about integrating AI models into web development platforms, incorporating AI into low-code environments, and the accessibility of AI technologies through APIs and pre-built models.Sponsored by This DotWatch this episode on YouTubeRead m…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E10- React Version Transitions, Library Updates, and Why Standards Bodies are so Complex with JLarky
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On this episode of Modern Web, hosts Tracy Lee, Ben Lesh, Adam Rackis, and guest JLarky share their takes on the JavaScript ecosystem, including thoughts on React version transitions and TypeScript compatibility. They also explore the challenges of library updates, as well as web standards and the complexities within standards bodies. Sponsored by …
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Modern Web Podcast S12E09- How Svelte and RSCs are Changing Web Development with Rich Harris
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Rich Harris, Tracy Lee, Ben Lesh, and Adam Rackis discuss the state of Svelte, React Server Components (RSCs), and the future of web development. Discover React Server Components, web development's next evolution in co-locating resources for improved data management, and reusability. Uncover the benefits of component-based data fetching, like impro…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E08- “Pretty Reasonable” Takes on RSC, Next.js, Type Enforcement, + More with Colby Fayock
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Colby Fayock joins hosts Ben Lesh, Adam Rackis, and Tracy Lee to talk about their latest takes on React Server Components, Next.js, and performance optimization. If you want to learn more about the React Server Components conversations on the web, the intricacies of caching in web development, the ins and outs of SDK development for Next.js, the po…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E07- Are you an AI Engineer? What is RAG? AI Implemented with Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel
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Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel discuss their excitement for AI's industry impact and the ease of implementing RAG with databases and large datasets. Tracy also mentions upcoming tech conferences like City JS, Cascadia JS, and Render, emphasizing the value of attending in-person events. Sponsored by This Dot Watch this episode on YouTube. Read more on our b…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E06- What’s New with Astro in 2024 with Matthew Phillips, CTO of Astro
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On this episode of the Modern Web Podcast, Tracy Lee, Adam Rackis, Ben Lesh, and guest Matthew Phillips discuss what’s going on in the world of Astro. They explore the concept of 'Islands' and how Astro allows seamless integration of components from different frameworks like React or Vue. The conversation covers technical details like client direct…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E05- Local-First Application Development is Back? with Dev Agrawal
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Dev Agrawal talks about the newfound interest in building 'local first' applications, which is often seen as an outdated paradigm. With Rob Ocel, he discusses how these apps prioritize user devices as the primary data source, allowing for offline access and user control. The conversation highlights the benefits of local-first architecture in creati…
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Modern Web Podcast S12E04- 6 Steps to AI Adoption: Benefits of SLMs vs LLMs
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Rob Ocel and Jerome Hardaway continue their series on AI adoption. In this installment, they discuss the differences between small language models (SLMs) and large language models (LLMs), highlighting the unique strengths of each. They also explore the advancements in AI chips by tech giants like Apple and Google, and their potential impact on the …
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Modern Web Podcast S12E03- How to Go from Software Engineer to AI Engineer with Shawn Wang
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Tracy Lee and Rob Ocel host an exciting episode featuring guest Shawn Wang, who shares insights on the emergence of AI engineering as a distinct field. Shawn emphasizes the importance of core knowledge and skills in AI engineering, and outlines a systematic approach to education and development. He envisions a future where AI engineering becomes a …
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