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Inclusive STAGES: Building Healthy Arts Spaces

Kira Troilo, Theater Consultant & Facilitator of Brave Creative Spaces

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Inclusive STAGES™ is the podcast for theater makers, creatives, and arts leaders who believe we can build a better industry—one brave, emotionally intelligent, and trauma-informed space at a time. Hosted by Kira Troilo, founder of Art & Soul Consulting, each episode explores what it really takes to create inclusive, healthy creative environments in today’s rapidly changing performing arts landscape. Whether you're a theater artist, an arts administrator, an educator, a creative leader, or a ...
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Into Liberation is a production of VISIONS, Inc, a non-profit organization that offers effective tools to help individuals and organizations communicate across differences and forge connections that drive collective success. Since 1984, we’ve offered research-based, time-tested approaches to cross-cultural learning that invite participants to engage in equity and inclusion work, starting at the personal and interpersonal levels and expanding to include changes toward institutional and cultur ...
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The A Leader Like Me Podcast is for HR professionals, leaders, and communication experts who want to create truly inclusive workplaces where everyone feels valued, heard, and empowered to thrive. Hosted by Priya Bates (she/her) and Advita Patel (she/her), co-founders of A Leader Like Me, this podcast features candid conversations with inspirational leaders who are driving real change in the world of work. Through their insights, you’ll discover practical strategies to embed equity, diversity ...
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Talking to a closeted Trump supporter about politics, inclusion, and what theater needs now. In this season finale, I sit down with my longtime friend, Julie D'Alessandro, a Boston-based voice teacher who has long kept her political views private. Together, we have a rare, candid conversation about inclusive theater, conservative voices in the arts…
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What if the greatest threat to theater right now isn’t empty seats, but burnout in the arts? In this solo episode, I open up about the strain so many artists and leaders are facing, and why creative leadership strategies and even AI might hold part of the answer. From admin overload to outdated business models, I share a vision for tools and system…
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What if the most powerful tool for change in theater isn’t performance, but conversation? I sit down with my dad, retired firefighter Fred Cowan, for a candid family conversation about race, theater, equity, and what it takes to build genuine inclusion. From fighting fires in public service to calling out tokenism in the arts, he shares stories of …
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Santiago and Peaches sit down with Hiawatha Bouldin who has been part of the Possibilities community since 2004. We get to hear how Hiawatha has contributed and enhanced communities in his own life as well as how Possibilities was a part of his community experience. Let's get to know Hiawatha!بقلم Possibilities Inc.
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What if the most powerful way to confront antisemitism… is by celebrating Jewish joy? I sit down with actor and singer Ari Axelrod, who shows how Jewish representation in theater goes far beyond casting—it’s about telling the complete story of a community’s history, resilience, and contributions. From calling out double standards in the arts to cre…
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What if your biggest barrier to belonging in a theater space was the hair that grows naturally out of your head? In this candid and eye-opening conversation, Jade Buffong-Phillips of Mane Hook-Up shares why textured hair in theater is more than a beauty concern. It’s an issue of equity, access, and care. From backstage realities to industry-wide ga…
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What if the most important thing a leader brings into the room… isn’t a resume, but a sense of culture? In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Melory Mirashrafi shares why they consider themselves a culture worker first, and how that lens transforms the way we create theater. From Persian epics to Pulitzer-winning plays, Melory unpacks what it…
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What if the stories you’re most connected to… are the ones you're being excluded from? In this important conversation, Mara Jill Herman shares what it means to be a Jewish artist and “artivist” in today’s theater world. From casting bias to creative resistance, she demonstrates how identity, advocacy, and art can intersect powerfully. This one’s bo…
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What if the future of theatre isn’t just about new work, but about new leadership to support it? In this episode, I sit down with Emily Carewe of Theatre503 in London to explore what inclusive theatre leadership really looks like across the pond, and what we can learn from it. From championing debut playwrights to navigating UK arts funding challen…
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What if the tension you’re feeling in the rehearsal room isn’t just about the work, but about how we define harm and discomfort? In this solo episode, I explore the growing disconnect in creative spaces and share a practical tool, the Stoplight System, to help you tune into your body, name what’s really happening, and respond with care. From person…
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Most artists crave authenticity, but what happens when the systems we’re trained in ask us to perform instead of feel? Sound healing artist and singer Davin Youngs joins me to discuss reclaiming one's voice, unlearning perfectionism, and reimagining performance as a space for healing, presence, and transformation. We talk about the ways formal trai…
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Most theatermakers care about inclusion, but what does it really take to build spaces that center healing, agency, and belonging? Educator and consultant Maati Wafford joins me to explore how the Montessori method, mental health, and DEI work intersect, and what the arts can learn from this powerful approach. We explore the role of adult accountabi…
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What really happens in a Broadway audition room, and how do you get remembered down the line, even if you don’t land the role? Broadway casting director Peter Van Dam joins me to discuss what really goes into casting a show, from open calls that launch careers to the quiet instinct it takes to build a cast that feels right. We explore his journey f…
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In this episode of A Leader Like Me, co-founders Advita Patel and Priya Bates sit down with internal communications specialist and former educator Rachelle Henderson. Rachelle shares her unique journey from linguistics and education into the world of internal comms, and how her passion for inclusion, creativity, and courageous conversations drives …
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Most artists are experts at expressing emotions, but that doesn’t mean they’ve been taught how to navigate them offstage. What does it really mean to build emotionally intelligent spaces in the arts? Zena Collins, one-third of the Inclusive STAGES team, joins me to unpack emotional intelligence as a powerful tool for creative leaders. We discuss ho…
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Most creative teams want to build inclusive environments, but without a clear process, things can fall apart quickly. So, how do we move from intention to action? In this episode, I’m walking you through the STAGES Framework—the six-step method I created through Art & Soul Consulting to help arts organizations build brave, resilient, and psychologi…
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Most theater companies want to support their artists, but many are missing the mark without realizing it. What does it actually mean to create psychologically safe spaces in the arts? There’s a powerful case to be made for prioritizing artists’ mental health—not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because it strengthens the work. When we c…
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I’m so excited to have the opportunity to bring you this conversation with the incredible writing team behind "Finn" - Chris Nee, Chris Dimond, and Michael Kooman - for an inspiring discussion about artistic resistance in the face of political censorship. When their critically acclaimed children's musical about a shark who discovers he might be a f…
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In this episode of A Leader Like Me, we sit down with Matisse, an award-winning advocate for inclusive communications, to unpack why accessibility is good business—and why it's time we stopped treating it as an afterthought. We explore: Why designing for the 'outliers' creates better experiences for everyone Common accessibility oversights in commu…
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In this powerful episode of A Leader Like Me, we speak with Janelle Benjamin—award-winning DEI consultant, founder of All Things Equitable, and LinkedIn Top Voice—about her journey from workplace mistreatment to building an influential consultancy rooted in justice and inclusion. Janelle opens up about life beyond the title: a dedicated single mum,…
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In this episode of A Leader Like Me, we sit down with Garry Clarke-Strange —founder of Think Inclusion and passionate inclusion consultant, who shares his inspiring journey from a traditional corporate career to running his own consultancy while living in Spain. Garry opens up about what inclusion really means, how respectful curiosity can be a cat…
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Longtime VISIONS consultant and psychologist Dr. Sarah Stearns shares her story, starting with her rural Connecticut upbringing to becoming a founding consultant with VISIONS Inc. In addition to talking about her personal and professional trajectory, she shares how her own experiences with discrimination fueled her commitment to multicultural work …
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In this energising episode of A Leader Like Me, Priya Bates and Advita Patel sit down with the dynamic and joy-fuelled Gabriel Galdamez—internal communications expert, community builder, and flying trapeze coach (yes, really!). Gabriel shares his unconventional journey into internal communications, his passion for purpose-driven work, and his refle…
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Welcome back, and thank you for joining us for a brand-new season of A Leader Like Me Podcast! Season five brings a fresh approach—while we’ll still be joined by inspiring guests and industry leaders, this time, we’re focusing on stories closer to home. This season, we’re highlighting voices from The Leader Like Me Collective—a powerful network of …
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In this episode of A Leader Like Me, hosts Advita Patel and Priya Bates sit down with Alexandra McAvoy, a marketing and events professional, business owner, and digital assistant for A Leader Like Me. Alex shares her inspiring journey of resilience—navigating job loss, single parenthood, and entrepreneurship—while championing equity, diversity, and…
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In this special episode of Inclusive Stages, host Kira Troilo steps into the guest seat for a candid conversation about the evolving landscape of DEI consulting in theater. Interviewed by her husband Jared, Kira unveils her unique approach to diversity, equity, and inclusion work that builds bridges instead of barriers. As a DEI consultant challeng…
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Today I’m excited to introduce you to Terry Berman, a senior VISIONS consultant, elder, and mentor to many of newer VISIONS consultants as they have come into this work. Terry grew up in a politically active Jewish family in South Africa, witnessing firsthand the courageous activism of her parents, whose anti-apartheid work forced the family into e…
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Welcome to the Season 2 finale of the Inclusive Stages podcast! 2024 has been a wild ride—it feels like I just started the podcast and it’s surreal to already have two seasons under my belt. Today, I’m going to share my lessons and reflections from 2024 as well as plans for 2025. But before we get into it, I want to share my gratitude—for the peopl…
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We’re doing things a little differently. My son Levi Troilo joins me today for a very special episode of the Inclusive Stages podcast! Levi and I love listening to podcasts where parents and children are reading books. We thought it would be fun to read a story and talk about a topic that applies to all kids and adults—the zones of regulation. The …
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In theater and in the arts world, self advocacy can feel almost impossible, especially for artists who so often feel they’re replaceable. In a lot of ways, that assumption is true and something we as an industry need to work on changing. Being able to advocate for yourself helps lay the groundwork for inclusion. Waiting to advocate for yourself can…
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EDI (or DEIB) work truly is for all of us! And given how much heat the industry has received recently—it could use a bit of a rebrand. Because representation in storytelling has the power to help us solve big problems in the world! If we let it… With a journey that’s taken her to Harvard, Walt Disney, Google, and even the TEDx stage—Julie Ann Cromm…
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Welcome to a very special episode of the Inclusive Stages podcast. A conversation centered around defining inclusion, creating a shared vision for this work, and establishing a brave space for difficult conversations. Because we can only become stronger and more connected people, organizations, and artists when we learn how to engage in hard conver…
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As a music director, Dan Rodriguez knows how critical inclusion is in theater and the arts. It’s critical in often unseen places like the pit, where you’ll find musicians, vocal performers, and the music director. Music directors tend to be with production processes the longest, which means they understand and have a unique position of influence wi…
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Brave spaces, I hope you'll agree, aren't a luxury in the arts. They’re a necessity for theater lovers and professionals. Without them, we can't push the boundaries of art and storytelling in a way that's healthy and sustainable. And isn't that what we're all here to do? Create art and theater that's daring and meaningful and makes a difference. Th…
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There’s a business case to be made for theater companies and arts organizations. We need to fill the seats with more dedicated theater lovers and friends. To do that, it’s important to be inclusive of the community we serve, think outside the box, and consider how we can welcome new audience members in a thoughtful, sustainable way. Aubrey Bergauer…
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Being a theater costume designer is about so much more than creating an outfit someone will wear for a performance. It’s about seeing that person, collaborating with them, and empowering them to bring this character to life night after night! Raquel Adorno began as a stage performer and, over time, transitioned into her most impactful role—theater …
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There are so many other talented, dedicated, and caring folks out here supporting everyone who brings a production to life. And this conversation is actually the very first time I met Alexa Smith! She’s had a very similar journey to me with acting, motherhood, and EDI consulting. Alexa shares about her early acting career, what led her to become a …
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I'm making good on a promise from my last solo episode—I’m talking about one of the most important and underrated skills that is missing from the theater industry. We haven't been educated about it, and yet it’s at the heart of all our creative work. Have you guessed what it is yet? When I say the word, it typically elicits groans—so get ready to g…
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In this episode, Priya and Advita are joined by Christelle Beneteau, Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer for Ferring Pharmaceuticals. Christelle leads all aspects of Ferrings Human Capital Strategy, Corporate Communications and sponsors the ED&I Strategy, she also serves on Ferring's Executive Committee. Before that she held similar posi…
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It’s hard to know how much of yourself to bring to a character as an actor. There’s also the question of which roles to even audition for? It can be absolutely exhausting trying to figure out which boxes to put yourself in and what to do with your talents in this industry. Which is why I’m grateful Jennifer Apple is here with me for this conversati…
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Politics is a part of not only the musical “Hamilton” but also the theater industry itself. From theater governance to policies that affect parents to actor taxation, there’s a whole section of theater that you may not be aware of—yet! If we hope to see change, we must take action. And that’s one major theme of this episode with Jared Dixon. Jared …
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In today's episode were interviewing Katherine Power and Tony Tenicela from Sodexo. Katherine is Vice President of Communications in North America. She is recognised for driving innovation, Inclusion and delivering superior communications results. A regular speaker at national and international conferences on Diversity and Inclusion, Corporate Soci…
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Join us for a conversation with Louise Coggins, longtime VISIONS board member and current board chair of VISIONS, who first met the founders of this organization when high schools integrated in Rocky Mount, NC. So much of VISIONS history and way of being is rooted in its value of relationality. Louise’s longtime connection and passionate support of…
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One easy way to show that you value black actors and members of your production team is to have thought things through ahead of time. Another is to ask for and actually act on feedback. There is so much I want to share on this topic, so what better way than to record a podcast and share that with you? Today’s solo episode—and season 2 opener for th…
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Join us as we sit down with VISIONS co-founder, longtime consultant, and retired professor public health Dr. John Capitman! Dr. Capitman talks about how he specialized in eldercare and developed community interventions in public health, as well as how his background and the life experiences informed his commitment and his approach, including how a …
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